How about A8? Some slowplayed 66 or JJ, realizing the scare turn would get folds vs a barrel often? I would just check-call river as a bluff catcher vs AK or thin value AJ, or bet 1/3 and decide on a RR depending on sizing, but maybe that's weak as well without particular reads.
Yeah I also don't see why he cant have the A8ss. In addition, if you're making the assumption villain is playing a bunch of tables as well and isn't thinking beyond mindlessly being like "yay have good bluff blockers here" he's probably just as likely, upon seeing two nines here, to be on the level of "oh i rep nothing here so shouldn't bluff since i checked back the turn" or what I think most likely happened in the hand: "i have A8ss here and i beat a ton of other 8s! POT!!" In other words, I don't think that read/assumption you gave should be counted for much. I'm not discounting the fact he could be bluffing as much as pointing out I think in order to bluff here villain would more likely be paying attention and knowing he has to smartly find some bluffs here or smartly be paying attention and check back some of those J8s, Q8s combos which I do think he probably opens at higher frequency than he should (especially if again, you think he's multitabling and maybe not as aware of the table's strength).
I love your videos for the detailed analysis and the overthinking, but I do think the overthinking leads to assumptions that sometimes aren't so realistic---at least, I've noticed this same tendency in myself and it's led to mistakes.
Woops, I forgot to click "fixed" and left the lock at proportional, so the "pure fold of 1" isn't really a pure fold at all, but goes from ~1/3 to 2/3. Good catch!
The AK hand is an old type of problem, but it hasn't been an issue with high stakes online against regs, as they didn't used to flat 3-bets with less than 2xpot behind. What hands other than AK would you shove for 50xBB and 8x pot? I assume the only other candidates would be mid pps.
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Love the detailed analysis
Thank you!
How about A8? Some slowplayed 66 or JJ, realizing the scare turn would get folds vs a barrel often? I would just check-call river as a bluff catcher vs AK or thin value AJ, or bet 1/3 and decide on a RR depending on sizing, but maybe that's weak as well without particular reads.
Yeah I also don't see why he cant have the A8ss. In addition, if you're making the assumption villain is playing a bunch of tables as well and isn't thinking beyond mindlessly being like "yay have good bluff blockers here" he's probably just as likely, upon seeing two nines here, to be on the level of "oh i rep nothing here so shouldn't bluff since i checked back the turn" or what I think most likely happened in the hand: "i have A8ss here and i beat a ton of other 8s! POT!!" In other words, I don't think that read/assumption you gave should be counted for much. I'm not discounting the fact he could be bluffing as much as pointing out I think in order to bluff here villain would more likely be paying attention and knowing he has to smartly find some bluffs here or smartly be paying attention and check back some of those J8s, Q8s combos which I do think he probably opens at higher frequency than he should (especially if again, you think he's multitabling and maybe not as aware of the table's strength).
I love your videos for the detailed analysis and the overthinking, but I do think the overthinking leads to assumptions that sometimes aren't so realistic---at least, I've noticed this same tendency in myself and it's led to mistakes.
I think A8 would by way to thin of a value raise for pot after I almost pot the river.
88 and 66 are not impossible, but it's 4 combos that should take this line extremely rarely
At 40:11: Why is 55 still getting called around 1/3rd of the time? Thought you made sure that was getting folded in the node locking process?
Nice detailled analysis, keep up the good work =)
Woops, I forgot to click "fixed" and left the lock at proportional, so the "pure fold of 1" isn't really a pure fold at all, but goes from ~1/3 to 2/3. Good catch!
The AK hand is an old type of problem, but it hasn't been an issue with high stakes online against regs, as they didn't used to flat 3-bets with less than 2xpot behind. What hands other than AK would you shove for 50xBB and 8x pot? I assume the only other candidates would be mid pps.
Mid PPs, and maybe AQo.
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