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I think this would probably be an overbluff on most streets, although I might get away with a small turn bet. I'd be pretty likely to have 7654o combos with my line on the river, so I definitely don't think I can bluff that street.
wow, really really impressed of the quality and consistency of your play, particularly your thinking process and the way you say : " I acknowledge that my opponent is doing this or that or more of this or more of that" and that you adjust or at least take mental notes without adding anything to it rather than generalizing your opponents play and actions (which I tend to do). I see how more effective your approach is than mine and how you incorporate these infos into your game. Also at 34:00 you don't value bet a set with 66 on the river with a straight on board, will you value bet only straight in that configuration? ty again for sharing looking forward for more. ;)
Thanks, I definitely think it's important to introduce adjustments gradually rather than taking big leaps in your strategy early in matches. I think you may have missed the action @34min, I x/c the turn here and don't think this is a great spot to lead the river.
Essentially I think it comes down to how restricted villain is in being able to counter the strategy. High cbet frequencies are best countered by check/raising flops, and this becomes a smaller threat as SPR goes down. The required equity to stackoff starts to get smaller and therefore the amount of pressure that the OOP player can leverage is lower.
@10:00 K4s bb defend spot
I was confused w/ your turn fold.
I decided to figure how high K4 stands in your range ott equity wise vs his range
For simplicity I used approximate ranges (since villian`s tendencies/ranges are unknown to me).
I assumed you peel this range pre ~60%:
and c/c 58% otf ( which is close to 1-a) not having flop c/r range (which might be wrong) but I wanted to examine extreme case:
I assigned him simplified range for potting turn which has 1.5/1 value/bluffs relation (since I assumed one of your concerns was he might be not well balanced potting turn):
So his potting range has 56% vs our whole range and K4 is actually top 20% hand in your range - your best choice after all traps, good pairs(pairs+good_draws):
K4 has 47% and 5-7% ahead of hands like A5,A3,A2,65 which actually is quite expected given you have OESD.
Even if we set his value/bluff ratio ott to 5/1 K4 still top20% and has 31% equity!
Ofc these ranges arent precise but probably dont change the whole picture.
What do you think?
First of all, this is a very good analysis - thanks for the detail in this comment.
Second, these results are pretty interesting and certainly don't reflect the way I was ranking hands in game. Do you think there's a bias by using the worst case scenarios here with value-heavy ranges? How do the results change if we give him a more realistic scenario where he is bluffing more frequently? This should shift things in favour of pairs wanting to click call, but in retrospect there's basically no situation where this falls in the bottom half of my range. This was a hasty fold on my part, I must have not been thinking about how strong K4 is compared to weak 4x hands.
Yeah if he`s badly overbluffing ott w/ 6x, 4x weaker 4x loses equity and drop down ranks in our range, but not K4 :)
Its still top 30%-40% hand in our range, but weaker 4x (Q4, J4) drops to top 70%-80% (still having ~50% equity though) since he starts bluffing [K,Q][6,4] himself .
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Last 6-8 mins of the video the footage is frozen on you holding 87o and 3betting or is it just me?
Yeap, it's frozen for me too
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@10:20 You check down J4o to the river on KT2t2r8 and doesn't bluff it. Any particular reason on that run out?
I think this would probably be an overbluff on most streets, although I might get away with a small turn bet. I'd be pretty likely to have 7654o combos with my line on the river, so I definitely don't think I can bluff that street.
wow, really really impressed of the quality and consistency of your play, particularly your thinking process and the way you say : " I acknowledge that my opponent is doing this or that or more of this or more of that" and that you adjust or at least take mental notes without adding anything to it rather than generalizing your opponents play and actions (which I tend to do). I see how more effective your approach is than mine and how you incorporate these infos into your game. Also at 34:00 you don't value bet a set with 66 on the river with a straight on board, will you value bet only straight in that configuration? ty again for sharing looking forward for more. ;)
Thanks, I definitely think it's important to introduce adjustments gradually rather than taking big leaps in your strategy early in matches. I think you may have missed the action @34min, I x/c the turn here and don't think this is a great spot to lead the river.
great video as always.
Why when we get shallower do you want to bet more for protection and higher cbet freq?
just dropping by to see what Krab as to say about that one
Instinctively, I'd guess BTN has more high equity hands than BB on a shallow stack, making high cbet freq good and tough to defend against oop
Essentially I think it comes down to how restricted villain is in being able to counter the strategy. High cbet frequencies are best countered by check/raising flops, and this becomes a smaller threat as SPR goes down. The required equity to stackoff starts to get smaller and therefore the amount of pressure that the OOP player can leverage is lower.
@10:00 K4s bb defend spot
I was confused w/ your turn fold.
I decided to figure how high K4 stands in your range ott equity wise vs his range
For simplicity I used approximate ranges (since villian`s tendencies/ranges are unknown to me).
I assumed you peel this range pre ~60%:
and c/c 58% otf ( which is close to 1-a) not having flop c/r range (which might be wrong) but I wanted to examine extreme case:
I assigned him simplified range for potting turn which has 1.5/1 value/bluffs relation (since I assumed one of your concerns was he might be not well balanced potting turn):
So his potting range has 56% vs our whole range and K4 is actually top 20% hand in your range - your best choice after all traps, good pairs(pairs+good_draws):
K4 has 47% and 5-7% ahead of hands like A5,A3,A2,65 which actually is quite expected given you have OESD.
Even if we set his value/bluff ratio ott to 5/1 K4 still top20% and has 31% equity!
Ofc these ranges arent precise but probably dont change the whole picture.
What do you think?
First of all, this is a very good analysis - thanks for the detail in this comment.
Second, these results are pretty interesting and certainly don't reflect the way I was ranking hands in game. Do you think there's a bias by using the worst case scenarios here with value-heavy ranges? How do the results change if we give him a more realistic scenario where he is bluffing more frequently? This should shift things in favour of pairs wanting to click call, but in retrospect there's basically no situation where this falls in the bottom half of my range. This was a hasty fold on my part, I must have not been thinking about how strong K4 is compared to weak 4x hands.
Yeah if he`s badly overbluffing ott w/ 6x, 4x weaker 4x loses equity and drop down ranks in our range, but not K4 :)
Its still top 30%-40% hand in our range, but weaker 4x (Q4, J4) drops to top 70%-80% (still having ~50% equity though) since he starts bluffing [K,Q][6,4] himself .
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