WCOOP $1k 6-Max (part 3)
Posted by Dylan Linde
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Hey Dylan, I am loving this series. Your analysis is very detailed and well thought out. Your best yet! By the way, I would suggest always folding KK preflop. Cheers, Doc.
haha thanks doc :D I know the KK from the sb pain
@ 41:00 you 3b QQ bbVco 4 handed and you say "most people are going to immediately split by shoving or folding" (sorry if this is a noob question).
Are you just stating that you don't think people call here much and decide to only play shove/fold? I guess it is also implied that if they get to this spot with a hand like KQs (a standard call vs 3bet), that you're saying you expect them to still only shove/fold?
Hey, thanks for the question. So what I was trying to say is that with his 18-24~ish bb stack size he will have a very small amount of his range his will want to call with vs my 3b. This means he will want to play a majority of his medium/high value hands as 4b hands and then fold quite a few he hands he would otherwise peel with deeper (or turn them into 4b bluffs). He can expect us to be peeling very wide(as we expect him to be opening fairly wide) and thus not having that many hands we want to turn into bluffs, thus he will think we are more polar (which is true). I still expect him to have a peeling range, but a fairly narrow one consisting of a few suited broadways/connectors and some AA.
Thx Dylan for producing this nice series. I actually reconized that people tend to have again bigger 3 bet sizings at High- and Midstake MTT's. Why does this have changed and what are the advantages of 3 betting bigger then small nowadays again? Obv i produce more FE when sizing bigger but my bluffs get more expensive then. Do i need to adjust my 3 bet frequencies when I'm sizing bigger? So that I'm more balanced toward value hands then bluffs.
Lets say we have btw 35bb and 50bb + Ante. I'm used to 3 bet smaller in avg to keep my bluffs cheaper and my opponents range wider. My avg 3 bet sizing in that scenario is usually 2.5-2.9 times bigger then the opr when I'm oop. In pos 2.1-2.5 times bigger then the opr.
Specially IP it seems that good regs prefer to 3 bet closer to 3x of the opr then it in the past. E.G. KK hand at 27:54.
Or even bigger when they are oop. E.g.: the A8 and AJ hand at the very beginning of the Video.
Thx a lot.
Good question man, thanks.
I definitely used to be on your side of the fence as far as 3b sizing is concerned. There are certainly times when you want to use smaller ssizings ( for instance in shallower stack situations where you want to be able to value 3b lighter and peel to 4b or in spots where you might not expect many flats) but I believe you see more large sized 3bs than what was previously popular in the metagame is due to the fact that players are no longer overfolding as much to 3b. So, we need to make peeling less profitable, especially at deeper stack depths. This is even more true oop for obvious reasons. You do get a better price on your 3b bluffs with smaller sizing but with a balanced 3b range you will want to concern yourself more with extracting max value from your value hands than making your bluff price cheaper. Also we make 4b bluffing us that much more expensive.
Hope this helps to answer your question
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