really enjoyed the video. pretty new to elite membership and I do not recall watching a previous video of yours. thought you did a great job explaining your thought process and thought you played well. thanks.
Hey Suk, definitely it's a spot where I think I'm inducing him with a wider range than QQ+. The pacing of the table and our play seems to dictate him getting it in lighter potentially
Re the JJ@20mins, I don't really think the word inducing is appropriate here. A small 4bet would have been to 24.5K or something like that. You virtually stick in 1/2 of the buttons stack to the point you would almost have to call even if he showed you Aces then jammed. A smart player like gambler here is going to know you are nutted. I think your sizing is such that he thinks you might put him on some polarized squeezes but are just going for it with something like 99-JJ since he blocks AA+QQ and those top pairs might 4bet a little smaller anyway. If he is squeezing polarized, you should be raising smaller imo to fold out the trashier parts or possibly induce some of the better hands he has that you do well against.
Hey, thanks for the question. I think that in the video I somewhat explain my reasoning as to the sizing here. There are many situations in MTTs where you will be cold 4b, 3b or 4b vs a squeeze somewhat light where you still have to call off a short stack, this does not occlude you from having weaker end hands/bluffs. Specifically situations like this arise when you are 3b bluffing with hands that still do ok vs strong value hands (Axs) that a short stack behind might have. This hand begins from a standpoint that both gambler and I can pretty much discount the buttons range to mostly medium strength hands and the rarely slowplayed extreme monster (AA mainly). We can do this because there hasn't been that much of a squeeze dynamic and I have been opening a good amount, so we can deduce that he is probably going to be 3b most of his value hands from the button.
As to our sizing vs gambler I believe that making it slightly larger is somewhat of a mind trick. Most people tend to make their sizings a little larger when they are afraid to see a flop. I could be wrong vs a good player like gambler but we did get a good amount of action from the situation.
MInute 32 with AJ, i think the btn isn't going to be getting in JJ/Ako with 100% frequency here when he 4bets. Against a highly polarized range, AJ might have sufficient equity to make a call here.
In regards to 3betting bottom 5% and top 12-15% against a sb minraise in the BB, would it not be better to have some stronger 3bets in the bottom of our range in order to allow us to barrel more frequently postflop? Im playing devils advocate here, but VPIPing 100% seems like a worse option than having some folds and adding some suited cards in the bottom 73-78% of hands
My rough calculations on the TT hand after we get cold 4 seems to have us winning 1.5 bbs, assuming allucaneat calls off with top 2.5% of hands (3betting an assumed linear 20% from sb), and BB getting in top 7% hands against allucaneat and calling off the top 3% hands after we 40 hands after we 5bet all in.
I do not believe that this player would be folding TT+ to my 3b or subsequent 5b jam. He might certainly be light more than I give him credit for and thus it could definitely be a good position for me to 5b jam. I do not that that it is a spot where we should always be 3 to 5b w/ AJo and in this situation at this table I thought that I would probably be better served playing it in the fashion I did.
Yes I agree with you here. I think that I wouldn't necessarily 3b the entirety of the bottom portion of my range. Having a few board coverage hands is just a healthy way to build a 3b strategy and certainly I would be occasionally mixing in some lower end suited gappers for just the reason you pointed out. Certainly a lot depends on effect stack sizes and how often his 4b is just a big shove. When I believe that to be the case then I will tend towards having less board coverage hands and more polar hands in my 3b vs the sb min.
I think folding TT wasnt the best option here. I doubt if I could rewind the tournament that I would do the same. I had just been moved to the table and really had no perception of the players other than knowing Killerroooooo to be a good regular who has played a lot of cash. We can see a good example here of me just kind of trying to hard to protect my stack and letting how deep we are in the tournament change my play somewhat.
Ohh ok, sorry for the confusion. I think that I would consider peeling with AJs. The problem with our specific hand here is vs his bluffs we hit boards that are in our perceived range (monsters KK+, AQs, AKs etc) and if he starts putting pressure on those boards we still aren't too comfortable. The price is good, but we are in a nightmare spot with such a low spr.
Regarding 94s 20bb bvb shove (39:50) -- Do you think shoving here as opposed to raising 3x/4x is the best strategy? By jamming you're risking 20bb to win 3bb as opposed to raising 4x or so and risking 4bb to win 3. In addition I'm assuming you don't want to shove the top of your range making your jamming range more weighted towards medium pairs/Ax/garbage.
Hey Dylan, I want to ask a question about something i'm hearing often in training videos (this is not directed at you, and is not meant to insinuate i feel a certain way about the hand i will use as an example).
After your analysis of the TT hand you played in BB at 12:00, you explain how it can be a marginal shove, and you say "I'm not unhappy with it". I hear this, or similar statements used often by coaches when talking about a hand, but if you're taking a line, shouldn't you be more confident than that about it?
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really enjoyed the video. pretty new to elite membership and I do not recall watching a previous video of yours. thought you did a great job explaining your thought process and thought you played well. thanks.
Thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series.
I dont get that calling 5bet shove with JJ that deep , it easily can be easily QQ+ right ? or is it because of opponent ?
Hey Suk, definitely it's a spot where I think I'm inducing him with a wider range than QQ+. The pacing of the table and our play seems to dictate him getting it in lighter potentially
Re the JJ@20mins, I don't really think the word inducing is appropriate here. A small 4bet would have been to 24.5K or something like that. You virtually stick in 1/2 of the buttons stack to the point you would almost have to call even if he showed you Aces then jammed. A smart player like gambler here is going to know you are nutted. I think your sizing is such that he thinks you might put him on some polarized squeezes but are just going for it with something like 99-JJ since he blocks AA+QQ and those top pairs might 4bet a little smaller anyway. If he is squeezing polarized, you should be raising smaller imo to fold out the trashier parts or possibly induce some of the better hands he has that you do well against.
no 4b bluff can fold vs the button anyway and dylan can fold to gambler with his size still.
pretty lol you say that gambler knows hero is nutted here but shows up jamming AQo. he didnt jam cause dylan 'always has 99-JJ here' (what about AK?)
Hey, thanks for the question. I think that in the video I somewhat explain my reasoning as to the sizing here. There are many situations in MTTs where you will be cold 4b, 3b or 4b vs a squeeze somewhat light where you still have to call off a short stack, this does not occlude you from having weaker end hands/bluffs. Specifically situations like this arise when you are 3b bluffing with hands that still do ok vs strong value hands (Axs) that a short stack behind might have. This hand begins from a standpoint that both gambler and I can pretty much discount the buttons range to mostly medium strength hands and the rarely slowplayed extreme monster (AA mainly). We can do this because there hasn't been that much of a squeeze dynamic and I have been opening a good amount, so we can deduce that he is probably going to be 3b most of his value hands from the button.
As to our sizing vs gambler I believe that making it slightly larger is somewhat of a mind trick. Most people tend to make their sizings a little larger when they are afraid to see a flop. I could be wrong vs a good player like gambler but we did get a good amount of action from the situation.
MInute 32 with AJ, i think the btn isn't going to be getting in JJ/Ako with 100% frequency here when he 4bets. Against a highly polarized range, AJ might have sufficient equity to make a call here.
In regards to 3betting bottom 5% and top 12-15% against a sb minraise in the BB, would it not be better to have some stronger 3bets in the bottom of our range in order to allow us to barrel more frequently postflop? Im playing devils advocate here, but VPIPing 100% seems like a worse option than having some folds and adding some suited cards in the bottom 73-78% of hands
My rough calculations on the TT hand after we get cold 4 seems to have us winning 1.5 bbs, assuming allucaneat calls off with top 2.5% of hands (3betting an assumed linear 20% from sb), and BB getting in top 7% hands against allucaneat and calling off the top 3% hands after we 40 hands after we 5bet all in.
Thanks for the great questions David.
I do not believe that this player would be folding TT+ to my 3b or subsequent 5b jam. He might certainly be light more than I give him credit for and thus it could definitely be a good position for me to 5b jam. I do not that that it is a spot where we should always be 3 to 5b w/ AJo and in this situation at this table I thought that I would probably be better served playing it in the fashion I did.
Yes I agree with you here. I think that I wouldn't necessarily 3b the entirety of the bottom portion of my range. Having a few board coverage hands is just a healthy way to build a 3b strategy and certainly I would be occasionally mixing in some lower end suited gappers for just the reason you pointed out. Certainly a lot depends on effect stack sizes and how often his 4b is just a big shove. When I believe that to be the case then I will tend towards having less board coverage hands and more polar hands in my 3b vs the sb min.
I think folding TT wasnt the best option here. I doubt if I could rewind the tournament that I would do the same. I had just been moved to the table and really had no perception of the players other than knowing Killerroooooo to be a good regular who has played a lot of cash. We can see a good example here of me just kind of trying to hard to protect my stack and letting how deep we are in the tournament change my play somewhat.
in regards to the AJ hand, I was referring to a flat, not a 5b shove. Curious if you think a flat here has merit
Ohh ok, sorry for the confusion. I think that I would consider peeling with AJs. The problem with our specific hand here is vs his bluffs we hit boards that are in our perceived range (monsters KK+, AQs, AKs etc) and if he starts putting pressure on those boards we still aren't too comfortable. The price is good, but we are in a nightmare spot with such a low spr.
Hey Dylan,
Regarding 94s 20bb bvb shove (39:50) -- Do you think shoving here as opposed to raising 3x/4x is the best strategy? By jamming you're risking 20bb to win 3bb as opposed to raising 4x or so and risking 4bb to win 3. In addition I'm assuming you don't want to shove the top of your range making your jamming range more weighted towards medium pairs/Ax/garbage.
Love your teaching style. Keep up the great work.
Hey Dylan, I want to ask a question about something i'm hearing often in training videos (this is not directed at you, and is not meant to insinuate i feel a certain way about the hand i will use as an example).
After your analysis of the TT hand you played in BB at 12:00, you explain how it can be a marginal shove, and you say "I'm not unhappy with it". I hear this, or similar statements used often by coaches when talking about a hand, but if you're taking a line, shouldn't you be more confident than that about it?
Thanks Dylan!
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