Hello! Thank you!
13:30 No, main idea behing barreling on the Turn is not to give a free card to our opponent's straight draws and value bet lower sets, but not turning our set into a bluff on the River.
54:30 Yes, we check-fold on most rivers, check-calling only with a Kh or Ah
1) Nice! Would like to see the continuation of this theme on playing the river with these hands. Bet size when the board pairs? What to do when the river doesn't pair the board.
2) I understand the relevance of unblocking straight draws that will continue on the flop and likely fold to the flush completing turn when bet into or x raised, but that part of the game tree goes away on the river as most opponents aren't continuing with straight draws after the flush completes, right?
Hello!
1) On the River, we either check or shove, there are no other bet sizings. When the River does not pair the board we mostly check-fold. The solver suggests bluff-catching with Ah or Kh, but in a real game I would never bluff-catch in such a spot because against our Turn barrel the population will usually continue only with flushes and sets, and people don't tend to turn sets into a bluff on the River.
2) Yes, straight draws will fold to our Turn barrel, especially in a real game.
Hi! I really like the approach on your videos. What do you think about Visions one betsize 75%. When I run these spot on Monker, it seems to prefer 2 sizing 33% and 100%. 100% is mostly used by NF and NFB and smaller is used by hands like sets and 2 pairs. Do you think we can simplify this spot to one betsize?
Hi! Usually, on nut-changing runouts, solvers indeed use two sizings—a small one and a big one. A 75% bet strategy is very close to a pot-sized bet since it is a big size anyway. Personally, I wouldn’t simplify it, as a 1/3 pot bet actually makes a lot of sense. With a set, we can value bet thin against two pairs, give ourselves decent pot odds against non-nutted flushes that would call, and deny equity from straight draws that would fold.
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Great follow up video. Seeing various straight cards would be good.
13:30 with the Ah are we ever barreling river to turn a set into a bluff?
54:30 for the hands we xc, are we folding most rivers?
Thanks!
Hello! Thank you!
13:30 No, main idea behing barreling on the Turn is not to give a free card to our opponent's straight draws and value bet lower sets, but not turning our set into a bluff on the River.
54:30 Yes, we check-fold on most rivers, check-calling only with a Kh or Ah
1) Nice! Would like to see the continuation of this theme on playing the river with these hands. Bet size when the board pairs? What to do when the river doesn't pair the board.
2) I understand the relevance of unblocking straight draws that will continue on the flop and likely fold to the flush completing turn when bet into or x raised, but that part of the game tree goes away on the river as most opponents aren't continuing with straight draws after the flush completes, right?
Hello!
1) On the River, we either check or shove, there are no other bet sizings. When the River does not pair the board we mostly check-fold. The solver suggests bluff-catching with Ah or Kh, but in a real game I would never bluff-catch in such a spot because against our Turn barrel the population will usually continue only with flushes and sets, and people don't tend to turn sets into a bluff on the River.
2) Yes, straight draws will fold to our Turn barrel, especially in a real game.
Hi! I really like the approach on your videos. What do you think about Visions one betsize 75%. When I run these spot on Monker, it seems to prefer 2 sizing 33% and 100%. 100% is mostly used by NF and NFB and smaller is used by hands like sets and 2 pairs. Do you think we can simplify this spot to one betsize?
Hi! Usually, on nut-changing runouts, solvers indeed use two sizings—a small one and a big one. A 75% bet strategy is very close to a pot-sized bet since it is a big size anyway. Personally, I wouldn’t simplify it, as a 1/3 pot bet actually makes a lot of sense. With a set, we can value bet thin against two pairs, give ourselves decent pot odds against non-nutted flushes that would call, and deny equity from straight draws that would fold.
Yes, thats’s what I thought myself. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you! I will :)
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