Tyler Reviews RunItTw1ce at $200 Zone Redux
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great video really enjoyed this one
Thank you Joe, I appreciate the love!
Thanks for part 2. I have been working on my checking range OOP as I used to over cbet too often which is a leak. In this video I over do my checking range a bit too much. The A94 board BvB on Axx or Kxx or double broadway boards should be closer to a range bet even OOP. What I came to realize is vs a wider range you can cbet more oop as an auto profit spot at least on these dryer boards.
Some other hands, not sure if its correct or not but the MP vs btn on JT4r board I was actually going to XR the KQ combo here. Not sure what I would do on a brick turn though, I think it becomes a small overbet shove given the effective stacks.
The KJ on AK4ssKK board all in was my first thought because as you said Zeebo theory. It was around 6x pot though. I felt 2x pot was fine, because I would not jam AX here to get someone off a chop. Just feels like quads are my main overbet hand here facing a donk bet at least. I think it was a good take away on facing a donk bet on AK4 board that favors the PFR for identifying recs. Then stop using theory sizes once I identify the rec and just use larger sizes to build the pot, which would of been easier to get stacks in if I had..
Sorry I dont have time stamps. There was a J95r board that Tyler Forrester mentioned was dry and I should cbet range? With A7o here I felt I did not have a lot of barrel opportunities so elected to check. Felt as if villain could float such a wide range here I would just get taken off my hand. I just dont view this board as dry. On the turn J95Tdd. I forgot what coach (probably Nuno) that taught me when you have a single diamond in your hand blocking some of their calling range you can bet these turns and the added gut shot helps. I do this with air on less connected boards as well such as K85r-2dd where I can barrel a hand like QdJx. Going back to the flop usually if I were to cbet a hand like As7d on this Jc9d5h board I prefer to double block some bdfd. Feel As7x is a negative blocker.
Last but not least the last hand with 63c if my memory is correct guy folded J9s here. Pool will be over folding this spot. At least the regs because pool under check raises. I will have a lot of bluffs here so folding 9x seems pretty bad. Besides my actual hands equity I thought this 975r board was much better for the BB than the CO 3bb rfi range. Also not sure how to approach these 3x opens. I feel some players are just doing it with entire range from every position. So I should defend a normal range in the BB. Other times I end up under defending because I see a lot of limping as well in the pool. What is your advice for defending these 3x raises? I will add some do it because of the $4 rake and people under 3bet so they are not punished for larger opens. Even see the 3.5x and 5x raises pretty often. I think the 3.5x is growing as a btn exploit. I know you prefer the smaller 2.2x sizing as we discussed this in previous video as well, larger sizing just allows BB to defend more correctly.
Thanks for any additional feed back. Out of town currently but will review solver on some of these spots when I get back.
I think you're confusing EV with betting frequency. It's higher ev to have double blockers, but that EV realization from PIO perspective is going to happen whether you bet or check (you face less bets in position, less raises and bets on turns and rivers). PIO does bias betting toward hands that block backdoor flush draws, but there's a counter exploit if it's to often which is to float non-backdoor flush draw, backdoor straight draws and ace highs and then bet turn when checked to.
It's a big deal to identify who you expect to play a strong counter-strategy to your exploitative strategy. The stronger the counter-strategy the more GTO focused the betsizing's should be (because they assume a healthy number of bluff-raises and also good-tight folds with middling hands). If your opponent is recreational player, then neither of the counter-strategies (good folds, some bluff raises) likely applies. If you node-lock for too many calls and too few bluff raises then PIO ends up playing a much different strategy (more value bets and less bluffs and bigger sizes).
On the A7 hand in particular, flush draw blockers are really power on boards which don't contain many straight draws, but on a JT9 board, the straight draw is the main draw with something like 5 times as many combinations as flush draws.
The range bets are taking advantage of the range asymmetries from the blinds where the price is really good preflop so BB can see the flop with many types of hands that the SB can't open. This ends up with a lot more bets when the BB calls preflop than another situations. It especially prevalent on disconnected and no flush draw boards. On something like J95, it's because the BB has lots of hands like K3o or Q6o that are forced to fold. If we adjust ranges and remove K3o or Q6o then we'd increase checking frequency here significantly, because the ranges are going to be much more symmetrical. In fact if for some reason we invert this range and allow the OOP to have too many K3o combos, then we'll see a much much higher check.
Against really big sizes, then it's probably safer to cut back the offsuit broadway, offsuit Ax regions and play hands that can flop good strong hands like 22 or 54s. The solver models here are going to broken, because the typical 3.5x raise is nothing like what a solver would open in these situations.
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