Great questions as usual!

I've opened a lot of T9o on the button (thinks 10,000s) and I think I've made a grand total of $1,000 dollars opening it. My conclusion was that I should be opening against recreational players and not 3-bet happy pros (which is the most common player type in these games). It's not going to be a large mistake to open, but I think it's a small one in these games.

You could argue that image is important, but I think in anonymous pool, it's not that likely that my opponents are going to pick up on me opening 37% instead of 43% (and it likely saves me some money). Longer term, maybe it's better to be closer to 41% in named games, so as not have any adjustments made against the strategy.

With the A5o, I generally fold because the big blind will raise this spot between 20-30% of the time and I have to fold to the raise. So I actually have to make more money here to break-even. Again it's not a big deal to limp, but I think it's likely slightly -EV for me.

Second half should be new hands, which will be reviewed with known cards from opponents in the next video.

Second half should be new hands, which will be reviewed with known cards from opponents in the next video.

Interesting, I actually emailed them about it and they said since it went to showdown, they couldn't send me the bonus. Thanks for the advice on the buyin bug.

Tyler Forrester If you make a royal and it goes to show down you don't get paid? That seems extremely odd!!! Imagine if they have a rule about money has to go in before the river for bad beat jack pot. That would be absurd.

I'm sorry if it came across as arrogant. It wasn't meant to be.

It's a little awkward, because I'm making a living playing, but basically the average reg in this pool is making many costly mistakes. My winrate in these games is too large to publish.

My winrate in these games is too large to publish.

Tyler Forrester
Do you play any other app sites like pokerbros? Even softer competition, but usually bigger pool and slightly more rake. I am mostly playing 100NL, what do you think max win rate can be with 5% rake and 4bb cap? I was thinking 3-6bb /100 is pretty standard, 7-10bb for really good regs, then maybe 11-15bb would be max for absolute crushers. If you don't mind me asking, what was your win rate on 100NL back in the day?

Depends heavily on skill level, but I think before rake, it's likely 20bb/100 at 6-max and probably 30bb/100 at 3-max. Of course, most players winrates will be much much lower, because if I'm beating a $100 NL game, by 20bb/100, I should be moving up immediately.

The 4bb cap-- hand rake is a serious drag on winrate long-term. Without rake-back it's possible that even strong players will be losing.

Tyler Forrester I do get 30% rake back, so that makes up for quite a bit of rake. Can you explain how you can go from 20bb/100 win rate to losing because of 5% rake with $4 cap? Seems like you would still be winning a large clip still.

I'm not confident that close to 100% rfi vs weak players is max EV strategy.

What are you talking about?

Finally in 2020, pros have figured out how to make weaker hands a slight money loser to open in the SB. I'm really skeptical that recreationals players with less time and energy to devote to the game can do the same.

2)"We will still play OOP, and most recs still will play somewhat ''good''. It is not like they will overfold BB a ton, or give up postflop easy (though some will)"

Basically this is the core of the argument, you think recs play well here, I don't think the data supports that. You are giving a lot of credit about some really highly technical postflop play to people who have to work for a living.

Arguments 1,3 are basically the same. Basically if the hands are breakeven -- why play them? Because they aren't breakeven, I make 10bb/100 with random bad opens. It's basically the equivalent of opening QTo or JTo in CO, which I think is indisputable.

Tyler Forrester Is this discussion about opening 100% in the SB to 3bb? opening 100% of the buttons?

Can't see 72o,T2o, and so on making money. I agree that we can open wide for 2x or 2.5x but I think still gonna be threshold(maybe top 70-80%).
Coming back to those standpoints: 1) Rake is quite big to make some hands better than -50bb/100? You have guys who fold more than 60% vs SB open, but very little. Other ones just will call you with Q2 and you end up check/folding flop.
2) What most regs do in zoom games (and this is solid approach), they just fast fold those trash hands and look for better spot. Cause waiting time to limp 100% of your range and after play postflop is quite time consuming

You can show off everyone how those hands are doing in PT4/HM2 if have big enough sample. I'm quite positive if you limp every trash hand you make more than -50bb with those( I was limping for quite long time, but man it is not really worth much without ante or rakeback deals). If min raise possible too

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Opening 100% of SBs -- Button play needs a tight opponent in the other blind to consider to opening widely, which is unlikely in a zone pool.

Generally people just have stronger tendencies at lower stakes. People who fold too much fold way too much and people who call too much call way too much.

That is a brilliant way to put it. And it is also the first time that I've heard it put that way. Makes boatloads of sense to my oft-struggling brain. Thanks, Tyler!