Tyler Reviews RunItTw1ce At $200 Zone
Posted by Tyler Forrester
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Fristing this one, congrats to RIT on getting this coaching! You definitely add a lot of valuable comments so it's nice to see you rewarded with this.
I will be taking a deep look at the advice given in this video and look forward to some more coaching from RIO coaches.
I ask all members and coaches a like that watch this video; if you spot ANYTHING at all, do not hold any punches back. Just call it as you see it!
1) 2min with AA (3way MP vs CO vs BB) if the pot was HU would you cbet or still check?
2) 8min with the AQh hand T#4 Is a special case where I deviate from a more normal fast play approach because guy is a maniac and I want to give him some rope. I think my default play here would be something like 1/3 - 3/4 - shove and just fast play with a geometric turn sizing. I like how PIO is betting 1/3 river sizing because hands like J10 would be a double gut shot that plays a call-call-fold and we block a lot of opponents value, so can still get called by weak AX here and also induce some type of spazz vs our block sizing. Great PIO sim here.
3) 17:30 Taking a note to attack more river block bets, even if I don't think I have great blockers just because it represents such a weak part of their range. I think question becomes sizing, with 6bb in the pot if they bet 1-2bb, are we just looking to pot it to 12bb or what sizing are you thinking Tyler Forrester ?
4) 18:50 This is a strategical mistake here with 6s3s T#3 on my part. I will say I wish the video showed the betting range and not just how the caller defends. My mistake here is that I am betting because of the BDSD + BDFD but not considering my poor blockers to opponents folding range or blocking any top pair type hands. I think PIO prefers to have the over card to the JX + BDFD so it can turn a top pair type hand. Where turning TP + BDFD is more powerful than having a BDSD + BDFD.
4.1) An example of this (my flawed thinking) for a MP vs BB SRP on 332r board I folded KQo where I thought a hand like 75c (BDSD BDFD) would continue, but apparently close to a pure fold vs a 3/4 sizing. Where KQo is more of a defend 80%+ of the time. Is my thinking now correct that PIO is more interested in turning top pair higher than the JJ-77 region that MP could have rather than running runner bdsd bdfd?
5) 29:35 Just sharing this screen shot so other viewers can know what the numbers mean next to my name. Here I am just looking at the 29% pot odds to make this call, think he is bluffing approximately this percentage of the time, but I don't really have any MDA on it. I weighted it more towards a bluff because felt like TX would check back this river or bet the turn. KX would have to be hearts or clubs in my eyes. Then unblocking hearts and 65s or AJc type combos felt like a calling spot to me.
Thank you Tyler Forrester for reviewing some of my footage I am very grateful! I am looking forward to part 2. Thought the PIO sims were fantastic on showing how many of my bets were not actual "things!" There was a lot of editing done skipping through the footage it looks like, if there is something better I can do on my end please let me know.
1) AA here is still often checked headsup, but it's not nearly as a big of mistake, because there's simply less trip combinations.
2) I agree that against a maniac giving him some rope makes sense, but on the 13 hands, I saw, I thought the conclusion was premature. Now when we see 4d3d on the river, we can conclude that he's pretty loose.
3) I'd play around with sizing, but it's common that this player type is block-folding at very high frequencies.
4) We could definitely study this hand as the aggressor, but I thought it was more interesting to understand why 63ss is a bad bet.
5) KQo vs low card backdoor flush/straight draw. PIO simulates the value across all future runouts and then sims it, so it's not straightforward as to why KQo is preferred over 75s.
But I think the main reasons are 1) KQo hits winning pairs on the turn, where as flushdraw/straight draw region has to pay to see a river. 2) KQ will just win at showdown in these spots, no bluffing required. 3) 7c5c when it hits a pair, has substantially lower EV.
Thanks Tyler Forrester simple and concise.
Finally we can roast him..... :D RunItTw1ce
No, without jokes, really good video, clear explanations and good insights, I really like the format. Thanks for sharing! :)
Thanks 72Just4U! Appreciate the love.
13min Hi dog!
Hahaha, he was pretty excited about the power company worker.
At around 26 minute mark:
could you talk some more about how btn and bb ranges interact with the board? You were saying even T8 is too good to bluff and J7 should bet large - I was a little surprised by the two statements together.
Also great video i appreciate all the solver work
It's counterintuitive, because Jx is lower equity on the Ace turn, but our opponent is supposed to bet the Ace 90% of the time, so when he checks Jx should be doing very well and is allowed to bet bigger.
Okay, so 76s, 87s, 86s, 76o,87o is roughly 30 combos. Jx+ is roughly 72 combos.
If we bet 1/4 pot with Jx, then we can bluff roughly 14 combos of busted draws. Basically our opponent should probably always call. Because no-one is that careful here to check 87o.
If we bet full pot with Jx, then we can bluff 36 combos or even a couple of T8o combos, this is probably a better sizing here with Jx, because we can bluff more often and cut-down the value of the hero calls, which our opponent should be thinking about making.
I put this hand into wizard where J7s and lower are choosing smaller block sizing, however, because of the min raise preflop ranges are going to be much wider than shown here. Tyler Forrester advice was pretty spot on with the wider ranges I am going to have so many bluffs in this spot, that IP is going to be forced to bluff catch quite a bit vs a bigger sizing. As you can see in this sim 87o is preferring a larger sizing on the river, which can be balanced with JX here. This sim only has J10o as the bottom of the bigger bet frequency. Looks like BTN has to call some K5s, Q5s, J6s, K9o vs the 3/4 sizing. I looked at multiple sizes that wizard gave for 19%, 52%, and 78%, and looks like frequency changes a bit, but mostly the same calling range for the btn in this spot. Just see more raising going on vs the block bet with some JX+ hands.
BTN's calling range vs 3/4 sizing:
RunItTw1ce I think it's interesting that we don't call this river very lightly vs bet. I think that's probably leaving money on the table against common strategies here, because T-high checking is so unlikely that all pairs should be profitable calls.
Tyler Forrester I completely agree with your comments and video comments as well. Using wizard for some time now put me too much into a solver based mindset compared to just using logic on how the pool plays. Also trying to work on my red line, which one of the things I was told was to improve my red line you can bet the value of what you think your hand is worth. In my mind it wasn't worth very much. However, see all the bluffs in hindsight in my range I should be sizing up with all JX for value.
Thank you both for sharing！Great work!
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