Hello Tyler,
Also really enjoyed this video - in combination with the previous video it makes for a great review. Is this hole cards feature something provided on ignition? I have never seen it before for cash games, presumably something to do with transparency and game integrity? When do you get the hole card information through - right after the hand or later?
8.40 - xr 76 on TT4
Watching this in the last video I wasn't sure it was a great play, but having listened to your explanation it makes a lot of sense - plenty of players cbet range here with no idea how to defend vs a raise and end up way overfolding so I like it. Will look for more spots like this in the future.
15.20 - facing pot w/Q5 on 8753J
Feel like this spot is probably way over bluffed based on what you said - can't see many players giving up here with K high, still feeds tough calling pot though with this hand.
19.30
I like the stack size correlating with aggression idea - something I didn't previously consider.
Thanks, I like the format and would like to see something like this again. Helps to analyse player pool tendencies and shows that your aggressive style really is generating lots of EV in this player pool.
Thanks for you feedback. I agree about the Q5 hand. It's probably going to be close to indifferent, because they are definitely finding the bluffs here.
At 30:00, the bet-call AK vs XR with diamonds and no hearts is good? I really dont know and dont have pio to run. The diamond block his bluff combos with backdoors (K5dd, K4dd, K3dd), and no hearts make turns like Kh or Ah very difficult spots.
Thank you for your comment! I think it's a small effect. It's only 3-combos and it's hard to find regions that don't interact with some part of the bluffing range that still have reasonable equity against top pair. 22 doesn't interact with anything, but it has lousy equity against region with every gutshot having 40% equity and every unpaired hand having 28%. We need to balance these two ideas when we consider which hands to call.
1:30 with AK on the KJ63 is the small 1/3 just pot geometry? Some times I see solves bet like 70% pot even though it's more than half the effective stacks. With the $130 effective, is there any merit to just using a more normal $70 sizing here?
Had two hands just yesterday, where I used a small turn sizing to set up roughly a 3/4 river shove, but ended up giving opponent direct odds with his flush draw. I'm curious if I should just ignore some of the pot geometry stuff and focus more on denying direct odds even if it puts in more than half my stack? If your opponent did have a hand like AsTs, AsQs, JsTs then he is just loving the 1/3 turn barrel.
I don't think you should focus on what happens when the villain has small ranges of crazy good draws. Like those 3 combos comprise about 7% of the range. I'd prefer to make a tough decision for the median hand rather than a premium draw.
On this hand though AK on KJ63ss board. The turn is usually small bet or big bet / overbet so like 33-90-150? Just curious if you chose the small bet because villain was short stack.
Him being a shortstacker moves sizing down, because I don't have to worry as much about implied odds. If he sucks out-- who cares, he wins 50bbs or something after paying 22.
38 min it was a limped pot on the T74ss board, but I wanted to note the OB is used quite a bit here. I put it into wizard as BTN vs BB defend and you can see QJo even without a spade is overbetting 12-27%.
Really loved this video. Shows a lot of mistakes I have been making both with passivity and over folding in a lot of spots. I hope you continue to make these videos with liver play + hole cards revealed.
I'm sure overbet has to be a part of computer type strategy here, but in practice I think it leaves the small bets vulnerable and often flips over our hand. It's easy to remember to overbet good hands and harder to remember to hit the mixed bluffs.
Nice vid mate, when you call out other player exploits and you say you can take advantage of them, does it really matter when it's on a site where everyone is anonymous?
If you think about as individual whose making mistakes, then of course not. I'll never be able to exploit X player in the pool making some specific mistake.
The main issue I have with this idea is that whenever I play 1/2 I see these mistakes, so it's not a person, it's the population. Post a hand in microstakes with the 3rd nuts against a river jam and ask them if they should fold and you'll get people who consistently say yes. This sort of thinking inevitability leads to a ton of spots where range is comprised mainly of weak hands and all of those hands are being folded. Take the AQ vs Q9o hand for example -- he's peeling so loose preflop that Q9o is in the top 15% of hands on the turn and he's folding. Those spots happen everyday if you can correctly find them by paying attention to stack-sizes,raise sizes and flop sizings, you'll find lucrative opportunities.
I think they're fine/good. It's a little nitty to check here against fish. Basically against regs, I get concerned that they will soul read me as QJo,KJo, KQo when I bet turn, so it makes more likely to check the regions. C-R is good/fine but you have to pay attention to betsizings because especially against overbet it's likely going to be money loser as a c-r.
I was exaggerating a little bit with 98s here vs a CO minraise. Generally, 98s is the worse performing suited connector because its straights aren't nearly as valuable as something like 76s, basically on JT7 or QJT, our equity is good but not as commanding as 76 on 985 or T98 because our opponent simply has more offsuit combos with suckout equity. Additionally 98 on 98x is a weaker hand than 76 on 76x because of the extra straight draws from our opponents (JTo vs 98s). The solver generally likes to avoid the combo because these reasons.
Something different, I don't think it matters too much unless the raise size is really big. If it's really big, we just can't raise that many hands and we're going to miss profitable opportunities.
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Great video series, Tyler. Especially enjoyed the comments on AKo vs AQo.
Excited to see what comes next.
Thanks!
Thanks FunkyMonkey appreciate the love!
Hello Tyler,
Also really enjoyed this video - in combination with the previous video it makes for a great review. Is this hole cards feature something provided on ignition? I have never seen it before for cash games, presumably something to do with transparency and game integrity? When do you get the hole card information through - right after the hand or later?
8.40 - xr 76 on TT4
Watching this in the last video I wasn't sure it was a great play, but having listened to your explanation it makes a lot of sense - plenty of players cbet range here with no idea how to defend vs a raise and end up way overfolding so I like it. Will look for more spots like this in the future.
15.20 - facing pot w/Q5 on 8753J
Feel like this spot is probably way over bluffed based on what you said - can't see many players giving up here with K high, still feeds tough calling pot though with this hand.
19.30
I like the stack size correlating with aggression idea - something I didn't previously consider.
Thanks, I like the format and would like to see something like this again. Helps to analyse player pool tendencies and shows that your aggressive style really is generating lots of EV in this player pool.
Thanks for you feedback. I agree about the Q5 hand. It's probably going to be close to indifferent, because they are definitely finding the bluffs here.
Hello, nice video!
At 30:00, the bet-call AK vs XR with diamonds and no hearts is good? I really dont know and dont have pio to run. The diamond block his bluff combos with backdoors (K5dd, K4dd, K3dd), and no hearts make turns like Kh or Ah very difficult spots.
Thank you for your comment! I think it's a small effect. It's only 3-combos and it's hard to find regions that don't interact with some part of the bluffing range that still have reasonable equity against top pair. 22 doesn't interact with anything, but it has lousy equity against region with every gutshot having 40% equity and every unpaired hand having 28%. We need to balance these two ideas when we consider which hands to call.
1:30 with AK on the KJ63 is the small 1/3 just pot geometry? Some times I see solves bet like 70% pot even though it's more than half the effective stacks. With the $130 effective, is there any merit to just using a more normal $70 sizing here?
Had two hands just yesterday, where I used a small turn sizing to set up roughly a 3/4 river shove, but ended up giving opponent direct odds with his flush draw. I'm curious if I should just ignore some of the pot geometry stuff and focus more on denying direct odds even if it puts in more than half my stack? If your opponent did have a hand like AsTs, AsQs, JsTs then he is just loving the 1/3 turn barrel.
Any blanket type advice for this?
I don't think you should focus on what happens when the villain has small ranges of crazy good draws. Like those 3 combos comprise about 7% of the range. I'd prefer to make a tough decision for the median hand rather than a premium draw.
On this hand though AK on KJ63ss board. The turn is usually small bet or big bet / overbet so like 33-90-150? Just curious if you chose the small bet because villain was short stack.
Him being a shortstacker moves sizing down, because I don't have to worry as much about implied odds. If he sucks out-- who cares, he wins 50bbs or something after paying 22.
38 min it was a limped pot on the T74ss board, but I wanted to note the OB is used quite a bit here. I put it into wizard as BTN vs BB defend and you can see QJo even without a spade is overbetting 12-27%.
Really loved this video. Shows a lot of mistakes I have been making both with passivity and over folding in a lot of spots. I hope you continue to make these videos with liver play + hole cards revealed.
I'm sure overbet has to be a part of computer type strategy here, but in practice I think it leaves the small bets vulnerable and often flips over our hand. It's easy to remember to overbet good hands and harder to remember to hit the mixed bluffs.
Nice vid mate, when you call out other player exploits and you say you can take advantage of them, does it really matter when it's on a site where everyone is anonymous?
If you think about as individual whose making mistakes, then of course not. I'll never be able to exploit X player in the pool making some specific mistake.
The main issue I have with this idea is that whenever I play 1/2 I see these mistakes, so it's not a person, it's the population. Post a hand in microstakes with the 3rd nuts against a river jam and ask them if they should fold and you'll get people who consistently say yes. This sort of thinking inevitability leads to a ton of spots where range is comprised mainly of weak hands and all of those hands are being folded. Take the AQ vs Q9o hand for example -- he's peeling so loose preflop that Q9o is in the top 15% of hands on the turn and he's folding. Those spots happen everyday if you can correctly find them by paying attention to stack-sizes,raise sizes and flop sizings, you'll find lucrative opportunities.
Great stuff as usual Tyler. Do you ever play 2,5/5 zone or is it exclusively 5/10 or 10/20 6max?
Thanks
Thanks Lono! Some 2/5 zone, I like the hands per hour. But most of my volume is at 5/10.
Excellent video tyler. I like these videos where you follow a previous session with the cards up replay.
At 19:00 I feel like we can barrel the turn. If we do chk and face a bet I like a chk raise. Any merit to these lines?
28:18 the 89ss you said you played for the sake of the video. Is this hand a 3bet or fold hand even when you have the btn?
Thanks.
I think they're fine/good. It's a little nitty to check here against fish. Basically against regs, I get concerned that they will soul read me as QJo,KJo, KQo when I bet turn, so it makes more likely to check the regions. C-R is good/fine but you have to pay attention to betsizings because especially against overbet it's likely going to be money loser as a c-r.
I was exaggerating a little bit with 98s here vs a CO minraise. Generally, 98s is the worse performing suited connector because its straights aren't nearly as valuable as something like 76s, basically on JT7 or QJT, our equity is good but not as commanding as 76 on 985 or T98 because our opponent simply has more offsuit combos with suckout equity. Additionally 98 on 98x is a weaker hand than 76 on 76x because of the extra straight draws from our opponents (JTo vs 98s). The solver generally likes to avoid the combo because these reasons.
How do you get this hand history showing everybodys hands?
Ignition allows you to see the holecards the day after.
Cool. Nice video btw!
Thank you!
Why are you min raising preflop on some hands?
Something different, I don't think it matters too much unless the raise size is really big. If it's really big, we just can't raise that many hands and we're going to miss profitable opportunities.
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