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$500NL: Biggest to Smallest Pots

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Tyler Forrester

POSTED Nov 15, 2022

Tyler Forrester walks through a session beginning with the biggest pots and ending with the smallest making for an interesting breakdown and things to consider for both scenarios.

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SoundSpeed 2 years, 4 months ago

I like this format.

2:45 I know you talked about how the qj hand is a gto jam but it needs to be done within the framework of a very precise strategy. In these spots I like to call the 3bet and go to the flop. I find myself taking flops more often than engaging in the 3,4,5 bet wars. To me it lowers variance and allows for more precision play rather than a wrecking ball that is jamming pre. Is there merit to playing like this or does it leak too much ev?

14:35 you talked about not making that bet with kk if you were a lot deeper. How would you play that hand if spr were 2 or 3-1?

30:40 without the fd are you mostly checking back the k7? Perhaps we can bet but closer to 50-75% pot.

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Tyler Forrester 2 years, 4 months ago

It's hard to say on the preflop jams -- the region is small and require a lot of off table work to get right, so I don't personally use it. It's also a classic case of a defense strategy, yes you guarantee the pot against X hand, but the pot is small and you never really allow your opponent to make a mistake because the calling regions are pretty intuitive.

14:35 -- 2 is probably still okay, but once you get to 3-4 SPR, you'll need to be good here in the high 80s to value bet twice, which isn't that likely given the board. You could use a block/mix-call strategy as a defense/extraction strategy here or just checking and using a mix-call strategy under the hope your opponent decides to miss value bets with with some sets and 5s (this actually happens quite a bit). .

30:40 -- I don't usually split sizings much on these boards, because most small bet value hands here, don't really mind giving a free card and serve as great bluff-catchers against opponent river bets. It depends on player and stickiness level, but if they don't really care what we bet and still call 2nd pair bigger is going to be preferred with K7, if they do care and fold more than I'd generally check.
You can use really complicated strategies in these type of spots, but EV of range is mainly dictated by how well you play the polar part of the range.

TRUEPOWER 4 months ago

I guess with the 47 we catch some flushes that barrels missed? Kind of rather would have some 10x that he can have as well

TRUEPOWER 4 months ago

Well played with the click back on the flop, 108cc seems a bit spewey with the flop raise, I guess puts some pressure on some Ax or kx in your range

TRUEPOWER 4 months ago

Frustrating in 3 bet pots with lower pocket pairs to the board with a couple overs never feels comfortable calling off, why barreling can be so profitable

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