Biggest Pots from 2019
Posted by Tyler Forrester
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Another great video at this point in time!
Thanks Tuning Punk!
Like in the dark at this point in time
Appreciate the vote of confidence!
In this situation, going to give a like before I even hit play. ;) Love your vids Tyler, absolutely my favorite
Appreciate the love EditBay!
"At this point in time" is becoming a meme at this point in time.
Hahahaha!
Nice video, about last hand, In my mind it comes that OOP is overbluffing river in general. Using T9/98/possible 4x or 77 type of stuff, so his mixed call should be fairly solid.
And as you said before if he is pro, that 200BB is meaningless to him and he is likely gonna thought it through rather than made emotional based decision
I'm really not sure on the overbluffing frequency. Sure IPs capped, but 200bb bluffs don't happen at that high of frequency.
My thought here is that even though most players would like to play rationally, there is still an emotional component to the game. He bet the river because he thought he had the best hand. It's not that easy to change his mind -- I mean "OOP could overbluff because ....... ".
Hi Tyler,
Great vid! thanks.
at 30:50 we cold4b AKs to 37BB. You already say that it is probably a little bit big. My question is: isn't it really way to big and what do you think about making it much smaller?
If we would 4b small, say to ~25BB;
A) we are not committing 100BB to the BU.
B) we can 4b wider and add bluffs / some mergy value.
C) sure the SB gets very good odds but I would argue play becomes much more difficult for him. Especially because of the deeper stack size vs him.
D) play would also become (slightly) more difficult for the BU opener.
What do you think?
Cheers!
I think all the points you raise are valid and I need to reevaluate my play in this spot.
The 37bbs is a relic to a simpler strategy where my range is well defined as JJ+, AKo and because of this I want to grow a pot to keep the implied odds down. If we use a more complicated strategy with some suited connectors and suited broadways, then the implied odds will natural come down, so I shouldn't need to use the larger size.
Another great video, Tyler Forrester - That last hand was really interesting and thought-provoking, although admittedly it did leave me somewhat questioning my intestinal fortitude!
I look forward to the next one that you will be releasing at a later point in time ;-D
Thanks Isildurrrrman! I'm stoked you enjoyed the video.
Hi Tyler, this is the very first video of yours that I’ve watched and I really enjoyed. I will be looking for your past ones and watch also them.
I got a couple of question if you don’t mind and I want to tell you that I play NL 25 and NL 50 so my question might be somewhat dumb
@ 10 with 57s
I haven’t used solvers in my life but I got a little bit of game theory, well it’s confused but it is there.
You basically said that preflop solvers have some frequencies that real players don’t have (I hope I understand correctly, I’m not native so I might be wrong). If I’m not wrong, we will get on any given flops with different ranges that differs from the solvers, doesn’t it make all the simulation invalid?
@ 18 still with 57s
So said that villains overcalls more than in GTO and so you switched your strategy to take advantage of that.
In PIO or in any other solver, is there a way to confirm that your strategy is the best? I mean, eons ago strategy were quite different from today and everyone thought they were correct. Now, with solvers, we got a new different approach but the algo don’t tell us why it does what it does, so we basically have to infer. So how do you know that your exploit is a good one?
Thanks Carlotta, great questions!
All solver solutions are approximations, because ranges are always different in game than what the solver expects. A solver produces the maximum minimum value strategy. Basically if you were to play against the best player in the world, the solver would capture maximum value against that player. This is different than the maximum value against any player, so all solver work is sub-optimal, because we are (never) playing against the best player in the world.
To produce strong strategies, we take the solver solution and then make adjustments for our player pool. Players under bluff -- overfold compared to solver. Players overbluff -- overcall compare to solver, etc. This cat and mouse game is why people still make money playing poker.
Thanks Tyler great video once again!
Loved the hands
The T9s hand I really liked your play and a I feel the somewhat disappointment getting called by JJ there. It's a really interesting hand to me and I can see the T9 blocker properties but when villain checks back turn is it not such we can deduct a great bit of TT,99 combo's from the villain range and maybe we should look to try and bluff hands that block 6x ? not sure..
He's definitely going to have 6x here, but realistically against the sizing, it is a bluff catcher, so I'm not terribly worried about blocking it. Ideally our blockers should be used to block hands that are pure calls, because those blockers reduce the calling frequency more.
35:00 hand
I though vilain was a dumb when I instantly saw his hand.
But when we think of it, I think that he had the perception that you re not doing this size with AKo , or TT (if you have it) on the flop. You re not shoving AA ,OTT also.
He blocks AQhh , and probably unblock all the bluff ( idon’t think your 4b KQs QJs at some point).
It’s a really brave play to call here, I don’t think he called because he was a reg or a vilain with loses aversion.
I’m never calling here if I m vilain.
I have the intuition that in theory on those kind of 4b pot, they are only few shoving ott, pio prefers to bet ~1/2pot to gain value by hand who calls turn fold river rather than hands who x/f on a AI sizing. Unfortunately my computer is dead, I can’t use Pio here
What is your thought about his ?
Cheers.
I definitely agree that it seems reasonable that I could be over bluffing because the hand is definitely not standard on all streets and so information about my actual postflop range is sparse.
The trouble I think with this argument is that most players generally choose Axs as their bluffs and most players bluff roughly optimally, so it's actually a little hard for me to have bluffs here. I mean maybe KQs or QJs is in the range but it's only 4-combos after blockers and maybe I have some Sulsky hands like Jh9h but again it's simply not very many combos of bluffs. He needs me to have roughly 4 semibluffs for every 7 value bets and I think that is difficult to get on this board texture.
You re right.
I don’t think this is a great call, and that is true that moot player or unbalanced towards Ax on their range on 4bet pot.
Brave is not equal to + EV unfortunately.
You said that he needs you to have roughly 4 semi bluff for every 7 value bet. I know it’s very simple to approximately calculate but I always struggle at it.
Do you have videos to advice me in this topic?
(should I re watch 1-A?)
Honesty PIOs free version for the turn is probably the easiest way to calculate it. Fix the betsizing to allin then see the semibluff to value bet ratio.
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