Two Very Different Hands
Posted by Daniel Dvoress
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This is an amazing in-depth video, thanks Daniel for crafting it!
question on a little detail how you constructed your flop betting range:
why did you have the 77-66, 44-33 as betting with a diamond but checking with no diamond? I was thinking the one without diamond needs more protection and need to bet whereas the one with diamond can play better as XC less fearing a diamond turn
Great question.
Your thought process is valid. In reality a true GTO strat would play a mix with both the diamond and the non-diamond combos. I picked the range somewhat arbitrarily, not wanting too complex of a strategy. My logic for the range construction was that with a diamond we have cleaner outs and more barrel potential. Thinking about it more that isn't the best for this spot and applies more to spots where we pretty much can't win by checking a low pocket (ex.we open EP, BB calls; on AsQs7c low pockets with a spade are decent candidates to potentially barrel off sometimes, without a spade you mostly just give up). A refinement I would make is to bet 44d-33d often, and check the bigger pockets with a diamond often.
Good video. One question regarding BB's range in the second hand which is this range: https://gyazo.com/380873927420838c8739a061a5403274
This seems very tight to me. Do you really think we should fold that much in an ante game IP facing a 3x, even vs a good reg? Assuming you don't 3bet most of the excluded hands at a 100% frequency it seems like you are folding them. Did you assume BB is aware of your SB strategy when coming up with this range?
I would usually defend any suited hand here and also be a bit wider with offsuit hands. I don't have access to PIO at the moment but would be interesting to see what the preflop solver suggests here, I would be surprised if it folds this much.
I realize the BB's range in this hand is not your own range, just to clear that up. But since we are talking about a good regs range I assume yours is going to be similar.
I'm not too sure what BB thinks my SB strategy is, I just did my best to estimate what his response would be.
It's pretty tight but I wouldn't say that it's extremely tight. We 3.5x, not 3x. Don't have access to CREV/software right now, but BB looks to be folding <45% of the time and SB is risking 4800 to win 3800 (it was 7 handed), with the bottom of SB's range having pretty poor equity. I don't think this is way off equilibrium, for example if BB was only folding something like 1/3rd of the time then the SB should clearly make a very abrupt adjustment and just raise a bunch of good hands with good equity.
Thanks, somehow missed it was a 3.5x, makes a lot of sense now.
Love your videos!
Hey Daniel, very in-depth video as many of yours are. Thank you.
I have a question regarding the 2nd hand. I didnt get a chance to run it in pio just yet, but does CREV have us call the river w/ a lot of combos that contain diamonds? This might be a fallacy on my part as far is the gametree is concerned. But if so that would seem a little counter-intuitive given that we would also expect villain to be having missed flushes in his betting range. Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
Best regards
This is great, thanks Daniel!
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