$500NL: Playing Sound Against a Whacky Pool
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Four tables definitely works well.
4:40 table 3 98s you said you wouldn't always open it. What is the bottom of your suited connector range for utg? What position is 98 a pure open?
8:45 table 3 aj, if you were against bb instead, can you bet small for value on turn?
13:20 table 1 kq you fold in sb vs utg open. Vs which position do you start 3betting this? Do you ever flat at all?
25:20 table 1 if he had bet turn would you consider a xr?
I think on the river having a pair to the board blocks his 2pr hands which is what we would target to fold by raising so I feel like xr bluffing river would be good.
Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback :)
4:40 - 54s is the btm of my UTG opening range. 98s is a pure open in the CO.
8:45 - I don't think so, not on this card.
13:20 - I start 3betting it vs the CO. I don't flat the SB at all.
25:20 - I don't think that I would have raised the turn. I think that T9s or T8s would of been better candidates to do so!
6:11 89hh, Are you bluffing a GTO frequency or underbluffing here possibly?
Underbluffing, just playing face-up vs what seems to be a weaker player (bet sizing, MP flat, German flag).
At 6.00 where you open the Q9o in the CO, is that just because there is a recreational player in the small blind? How wide would your range be here? Also, if the rec was in the BB rather than in the SB would you go even wider (more likely to play vs them, less likely to get squeezed)?
Because there is a rec in the blinds, yes. Q9o is the btm of my opening range here alongside T9o ( w a rec in the blinds).
If the rec was in the BB, I wouldn't go wider per say. I would just up my fqcy at which I'm opening those fringe hands.
You mentioned here that you will never cbet this board OOP. Obvious against a standard BTN flatting range it's a range check. Against a rec though, the solver will start off with a ~25% frequency half pot cbet. If you then nodelock the BTN to stab too often it will again go back to range checking. Which of the 2 scenarios above were you thinking of to range check here? I have been toying with the idea of mainly checking but having a small cbetting range for hands like QJ, other gutters and draws I don't like check-raising too much; coupled with some of the more vulnerable value hands - what do you think to this alternative?
I like range checking here, even vs a rec, because I get a lot of info when it's their turn to act.
Meaning, if they bet big, I have to proceed w caution. If they x back, they are probably quite weak and I can start barreling ott. If they bet half or smaller, I can probably steal the pot from them w a x/r or on a later street.
If you were to start to have a betting range, I think that QJo would be a great candidate. Worth giving it a try imo, especially vs recs.
Thanks, I had not really considered the information we get and how it might influence us to check. Recs likely to have timing tells along with the bet-sizing tells you mentioned.
I would expect this to be especially true on middling/lower boards where flopped pairs want more protection and recs are likely to bet nearly all of them on the flop?
matlittle Yes, I think those boards are quite over stabbed by recs for protections.
Appreciate the ''stay hydrated'' at the end :D nice vid
Thanks :)
Thanks for the vid jericho, nice pace :)
Glad that you enjoyed it :)
06:10 - table 3
Regarding villain's turn sizing - against what sizing would you consider a turn call?
80%+ probably. Anything lower than that = raising for me vs rec.
08:57 vs a snap PSB bet
I feel both the timing & sizing of this bet is too value heavy, plus it's from a rec.
At least he needs some time to think about the bluffing sizing OTR when he has an airball? And we could probably call with better blocker hands in this case?
I think that our hand is a clear call vs a rec here. They will have more offsuit diamonds in that spot than the normal reg that would flat the SB. He's also super polar w that bet size from my experience. They never bet TP like that on that board. I like calling but I understand your reasoning for folding as well.
18:01 such a disciplined fold.
If that's me I'm probably be like "sh*t I'm just going to call and lose as its' really my top range in this line." But I can see you being haunted all video long, even till the end you still thinking about it.
So in a dilemma of super underbluffed line vs top of our range (most of our boats are going to stab earlier), would you typically go with believing villain is not going to find bluffs? Looking back, how do you think we can best evaluate this spot in the future? (Although it's rare, it's going to be massive pot every time)
Thank you very much!
I think that mostly calling is the way to go and make villain show his hand. I don't like to make big folds. It was the weakest of my 9x though so I figured that I would let this one go but def not a fan lol.
The way I approach it is if I'm at the top of my range vs a reg, no matter the line, I call. In that particular spot, it was near the top for sure.
21:14 table1, you said
Would you barrel this combo on every brick turn?
and how do you think his stabbing sizing? - I look up in the sim and it seems solver prefers smaller sizing here as IP.
Yeah it would of been a good one on a blank turn. I usually go half pot in his shoes there when checked to. He went like 2/3 which is a little big but not terrible imo.
23:01 bottom right - what's the reason you go with an iso raise rather than a jam instead with ~12BB left?
I feel the FE is better and equity realization for A5o is not ideal - I would rather iso with A5s instead.
They sometimes will fold their utter trash vs the jam but still call it vs 3.5x open. Agreed though that jamming might be equally as good as the iso or even better w A5o.
26:58 bottom right, you said in game
Would you mind sharing the experience here :P, are they jamming too draw heavy here? Thanks!
From what I've seen, they will jam any pair to the board (4x and 3x), some pairs in-between the J and the 4 (ie 66), the obvious draws (fds) and sometimes the odd AK. Obviously, they will also have Jx and AA which we are in bad shape against but overall, I think that TT w a heart here is mostly a call.
Thank you for the detailed replies! Much love <3
Happy to help
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