Great video. I thought you analyzed the hands well. Quite a few interesting hands to go through in pio in your next video especially the kk hand. Looking forward to that.
At 23:17 I feel like the a9sd is a continue with the nut flush blocker and 2 straight future blockers. Seems like some good turn or river chk raise opportunities.
I actually slightly prefer when you make HHs analyses from your stakes, because it's a good occasion to show different plays from different players than the usual midstakes pool.
Maybe could you think of showing some higher stakes HHs where you see plays that don't often occur on z500 for example ?
10.15 - 3b A5s vs ISO
I agree that people ISO a bit too wide here, and don't mind 3betting A5s. I think lots of people also size up their ISO size sometimes with stronger hands, so when facing a 6x ISO from someone ISOing IP I'd be a little less likely to go for the 3bet. Do you see this pattern too at 500z or not?
44.20 -33 on AQ7
I think people check a fairly face up range here with mostly 1 pair hands that arent top pair like KK, JJ, TT, QX. I agree that low pairs are good bluffing hands, with 55>44>33>22, but multiple barrels are probably required otherwise it's easy for them to play their range with not much pressure applied to it. I would have thought a bigger stab sizing would be preferred here though given that we need to bet polar with pretty strong hands for value. Do you have bigger stabbing sizes or you just use the small size regardless of board?
Good players will be balanced here but yeah, you are probably right that the average villain is probably skewed towards weak sd value.
You are right, you need multiple barrels. RNG is key here because you can't just blast off mindlessly vs checks otherwise, you'll be way too bluff heavy.
IP, I don't stab bigger when 100bb deep. I can easily get stacks in through 3 streets if necessary given the already big SPR. I also think that people understand that when I'm stabbing on AQ7r IP, I am already polarized regardless of the sizing that I choose given that it's such a good board for the 3bettor.
12:30 T#2 The KK on wizard is flatting 31% preflop! Way higher than I thought for HJ vs SB 3B formation. Well played imo! I thought we could just pure fold the turn given the # of AX we have and being a dry board it's hard to find bluffs in SB's range. Most of the bluffs are coming form KQs-KTs and some 76s, but you block KXs so I think I would just exploit fold the turn. Theory wise you played perfectly though.
Noticed you were opening some KTo and QJo in the LJ but folding 87s/98s. In a pool that 3bets quite a bit, wouldn't it be better to play the SCs and fold the weaker off suite broadways that can't continue vs 3bet or do the blockers matter much more in terms of getting 3 bet a little less?
One of the main changes I have seen in preflop ranges over the past years is a shift from suited connector type hands to higher cards with better blockers. e.g. KTo or K8s preferred in MP to 98s. My interpretation of it is that 98s unblocks the 3betting ranges whereas the K blocks 3betting ranges. When you have 4 players behind, 2 of those players (if regs) will likely be playing 3bet or fold (CO and SB), and the BTN and BB also have 3betting ranges, then the blockers become very important. The shift to 3bet or fold in certain positions has certainly devalued suited connectors over the past years. Based on my ranges a MP open will get 3bet 29.6% of the time if BTN plays call/3bet/fold, and 31.0% of the time if BTN plays 3bet/fold. Also to note is that when we mix in calls with suited connectors, they are usually ~break-even so we don't instantly gain EV by being able to call the 3bet.
RunItTw1ce Hard spot for sure. I'm not sure abt folding turn w the best pair on the board but maybe you are right that exploitatively, it could be a fine fold. I kind of knew though that it was a call GTO wise so I didn't bother much thinking abt folding the turn in-game.
In my database, I've noticed that those SCs perform quite poorly vs 3bets. Those offsuit broadways have been working well for me so far when I'm opening them from earlier positions compared to SCs. I guess that it's easy to play vs 3bets when there is no mixing. They also perform okay/well in SRP. The blocker effects might help in getting 3betted less as well. I hadn't thought abt this but that could explain part of why my wr is much better w offsuit broadways than w SCs in earlier positions.
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Great video. I thought you analyzed the hands well. Quite a few interesting hands to go through in pio in your next video especially the kk hand. Looking forward to that.
At 23:17 I feel like the a9sd is a continue with the nut flush blocker and 2 straight future blockers. Seems like some good turn or river chk raise opportunities.
Thanks a lot for the kind words :)
Yes you are correct; I already started making a list of hands to analyze for my next video.
Abt A9sd, it felt super close in-game but the sizing was just too big.
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Hi, thanks for the vid.
I actually slightly prefer when you make HHs analyses from your stakes, because it's a good occasion to show different plays from different players than the usual midstakes pool.
Maybe could you think of showing some higher stakes HHs where you see plays that don't often occur on z500 for example ?
Cheers.
Thanks for the good feedback!
I did a few hhs analysis videos this year from higher stakes like in my first video. And if you go see my last video, it was only on hhs at 1kNL.
I try to incorporate a lot of 500z because I also play it and because a lot more people can relate to the actual gameplay.
But yeah, I'll try and incorporate some hhs from higher stakes more often as well.
10.15 - 3b A5s vs ISO
I agree that people ISO a bit too wide here, and don't mind 3betting A5s. I think lots of people also size up their ISO size sometimes with stronger hands, so when facing a 6x ISO from someone ISOing IP I'd be a little less likely to go for the 3bet. Do you see this pattern too at 500z or not?
That might be true, well spotted. Wouldn't surprised me if people are face-up w their iso sizing at midstakes.
Fwiw, I haven't noticed anything so far but I'll try and pay a bit more attention to the iso sizings and see if this pattern holds true.
44.20 -33 on AQ7
I think people check a fairly face up range here with mostly 1 pair hands that arent top pair like KK, JJ, TT, QX. I agree that low pairs are good bluffing hands, with 55>44>33>22, but multiple barrels are probably required otherwise it's easy for them to play their range with not much pressure applied to it. I would have thought a bigger stab sizing would be preferred here though given that we need to bet polar with pretty strong hands for value. Do you have bigger stabbing sizes or you just use the small size regardless of board?
Good players will be balanced here but yeah, you are probably right that the average villain is probably skewed towards weak sd value.
You are right, you need multiple barrels. RNG is key here because you can't just blast off mindlessly vs checks otherwise, you'll be way too bluff heavy.
IP, I don't stab bigger when 100bb deep. I can easily get stacks in through 3 streets if necessary given the already big SPR. I also think that people understand that when I'm stabbing on AQ7r IP, I am already polarized regardless of the sizing that I choose given that it's such a good board for the 3bettor.
12:30 T#2 The KK on wizard is flatting 31% preflop! Way higher than I thought for HJ vs SB 3B formation. Well played imo! I thought we could just pure fold the turn given the # of AX we have and being a dry board it's hard to find bluffs in SB's range. Most of the bluffs are coming form KQs-KTs and some 76s, but you block KXs so I think I would just exploit fold the turn. Theory wise you played perfectly though.
Noticed you were opening some KTo and QJo in the LJ but folding 87s/98s. In a pool that 3bets quite a bit, wouldn't it be better to play the SCs and fold the weaker off suite broadways that can't continue vs 3bet or do the blockers matter much more in terms of getting 3 bet a little less?
One of the main changes I have seen in preflop ranges over the past years is a shift from suited connector type hands to higher cards with better blockers. e.g. KTo or K8s preferred in MP to 98s. My interpretation of it is that 98s unblocks the 3betting ranges whereas the K blocks 3betting ranges. When you have 4 players behind, 2 of those players (if regs) will likely be playing 3bet or fold (CO and SB), and the BTN and BB also have 3betting ranges, then the blockers become very important. The shift to 3bet or fold in certain positions has certainly devalued suited connectors over the past years. Based on my ranges a MP open will get 3bet 29.6% of the time if BTN plays call/3bet/fold, and 31.0% of the time if BTN plays 3bet/fold. Also to note is that when we mix in calls with suited connectors, they are usually ~break-even so we don't instantly gain EV by being able to call the 3bet.
RunItTw1ce Hard spot for sure. I'm not sure abt folding turn w the best pair on the board but maybe you are right that exploitatively, it could be a fine fold. I kind of knew though that it was a call GTO wise so I didn't bother much thinking abt folding the turn in-game.
In my database, I've noticed that those SCs perform quite poorly vs 3bets. Those offsuit broadways have been working well for me so far when I'm opening them from earlier positions compared to SCs. I guess that it's easy to play vs 3bets when there is no mixing. They also perform okay/well in SRP. The blocker effects might help in getting 3betted less as well. I hadn't thought abt this but that could explain part of why my wr is much better w offsuit broadways than w SCs in earlier positions.
matlittle V cool detailed explanation, well summarized.
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