Great crash course, useful video for sure. I have a question that's not strictly related to this video. You mentioned BU win rate should be about 30bbs/100. What would you say, if u had to give a number/range or ratio, would be a reasonable SB win rate? Mine is -32bb/100 for 6 max zoom, actually slightly worse than my BB winrate. Assuming a player winning at 5bb/100 as an average for all positions, if that helps. Thanks

I don't know what your sample is but 32 is way too much if it has converged.

I think 10 is really good out of the sb and 15 is fine (but I'm not entirely sure.) There's stats guys that you'd be better off asking

Hello Apotheosis !
First, excuse me for my english level, i'm french.
Thank you for your great video, i really enjoy it. This subject is really crucial for me.

I have two questions for you. It will be amazing for me if you answer cause i never find them on forum or video, etc.

1/ I exclusively use nash range at 10bb and less facing reg. I deviate a little bit facing fish, especially with a limping trash hands range on SB or BTN sometimes. I use http://www.pushfoldcharts.com/ to know my shoving range.
But what about calling ? I never know what hand i am suppose to call facing shove.
Can u have a truly link for nash calling range ?
I guess i should made them myself with HMressource or Equilab if you answer is no.

2/ You really blow my mind. We are supposed to push less when our opponent is calling too wide ??? I really don't get it.

In my mind, if a opponent overfold to our pushing range, we can make more money by shoving more. It seems clear, cause we have extra EV from our fold-equity.
But, i tought that if a opponent call too much, we make more money as well. Cause the equity of our range is higher than opponent's equity range. And i tough that every "exotic" call will be punished by being EV-.

I guess i missed something in the video !

Thank you !

1) You'd have to find the NASH calling range in HRC. Keep in mind, it's only optimal if villain is also shoving the nash range and won't adjust if you exploit him (to counter exploit you).

2)No, you have to shove less. With the top of your range, you will make more money if he calls too wide (because AA WANTS to be called). The bottom end of your range (and by extension hands that were too weak to end up in the range in the first place) make most of their money from the times villain folds. If villain calls, they actually lose (not enough to offset what they win when he folds though). Therefore, they do worse as he calls more (mostly). Obviously at some point he simply calls too wide and you make more money again.

For example. Lets say we're supposed to shove 10% and he's supposed to call 15%. If he calls 17%, we probably can't shove hands in the range of 9-10% anymore. They needed that extra fold equity. If he calls 95% then of course we never get folds but our hands do so well when called we can actually jam up to 20% for example. However, no one actually shoves this much wider than the nash so it's not a really useful part of the equation.

Hello apoheis very good video like allways.
Can you tell me more about nash 11-19bb?

Thank you.

good vid cheers :)

too many generalisations..too bad

Great video and the Phil Hellmuth example. LMAO.... "Look, honey, I trapped him."