Hey, I found this video realy usefull as an MTT newbie. Thanks a lot !
One question:if people aren't really ICM aware, and play more according to cEV, ie. call shoves to wide. Does this means villain will lose $EV, but also hero... and therefore we should shove tighter ranges ? Is there a tool in Holdemresouces that can show you how wide we can shove if we know his calling range, ie. chipEV calling ranges?
Your reasoning is correct that we should shove tighter in the spot you described if our opponent is calling too wide. I am not sure if there are any programs out there that do what you are asking.
u didnt run icm numbers for GM_Valter with the KJs spot. I think it is leaning towards a fold in that spot because there is a player left with 1bb who will be automatically all in when the blinds hit him. What are your opinions on that?
Around 10 minutes 30 seconds in you play a hand vs DannyN13, where he defends his button off a 15bb stack, and when the flop comes extremely dry K high you decide to shut down on the assumption that he flats KQ and the like.
My question is do you think this would be a big leak for Danny to be defending here with the KQ, KJ, etc... ?
This strikes me as being a mistake and I'm quite curious if this would be a fine option? Because personally I would be shoveing KQ in Danny's shoes here the majority of the time preflop vs a aggressive opponent like yourself.
P.S. Grayson, you are one of my favourite pros, please keep up the good work crushing tournaments and making some of the best training videos this universe has to offer. Thank you!!!
At 17:22 you raise co w/ A8o and say you plan on calling a shove from sb/bb who each have 10bb. You need around 37% equity to make a call break-even. Can you give me an idea of what range you believe sb/bb would jam with? Vs any pair, axx, a8o+, jqs+,KJo+ you have 40%. Is this range accurate and do you take any edge here? Are many villians shoving any Ax here??
That looks like a pretty accurate range for the SB and BB, and I do think I need to r/call rather than r/f with A8o. Looking back at the hand, I would prefer an open-shove rather than min-raising, mainly because it does not allow the BB to defend.
approx 18 minutes and 30 min or so (blease bare with me i will describe the spot)
You open Ax from lp with two 10bb stacks in the blinds and you said you plan on calling them. Dont you think it might be closer toa fold since they cant really play back at your play light at all and you know your never in good shape with Ax.?
In the first spot, which tinyelvis also asked about, A8o has simply too much equity against the 10bb stacks' shoving range for me to r/f. If I were to have a weaker offsuit Ax, then folding is a possibility. I'm not sure which other spot you referenced later in the video.
you mentioned you were playing chip EV until the FT. So do you not alter your ranges much until then? i thought icmizer would change ranges a lot at the final 2 tables for example?
ICM does play a small role at the final 2 tables, and is worth being aware of and altering your ranges slightly, but nowhere close to as big of a role as it does at the FT, where there is a payjump with each elimination.
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Hey, I found this video realy usefull as an MTT newbie. Thanks a lot !
One question:if people aren't really ICM aware, and play more according to cEV, ie. call shoves to wide. Does this means villain will lose $EV, but also hero... and therefore we should shove tighter ranges ? Is there a tool in Holdemresouces that can show you how wide we can shove if we know his calling range, ie. chipEV calling ranges?
Your reasoning is correct that we should shove tighter in the spot you described if our opponent is calling too wide. I am not sure if there are any programs out there that do what you are asking.
u didnt run icm numbers for GM_Valter with the KJs spot. I think it is leaning towards a fold in that spot because there is a player left with 1bb who will be automatically all in when the blinds hit him. What are your opinions on that?
Thanks
I just ran the numbers, SB can shove atc and GM_valter should be calling 27.6%, so KJs is an easy call.
Around 10 minutes 30 seconds in you play a hand vs DannyN13, where he defends his button off a 15bb stack, and when the flop comes extremely dry K high you decide to shut down on the assumption that he flats KQ and the like.
My question is do you think this would be a big leak for Danny to be defending here with the KQ, KJ, etc... ?
This strikes me as being a mistake and I'm quite curious if this would be a fine option? Because personally I would be shoveing KQ in Danny's shoes here the majority of the time preflop vs a aggressive opponent like yourself.
P.S. Grayson, you are one of my favourite pros, please keep up the good work crushing tournaments and making some of the best training videos this universe has to offer. Thank you!!!
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I don't think it would be a big leak to be flatting those hands, but I agree that shoving is better.
I really enjoy the format of these videos. Keep it up.
Thanks, Bob
At 17:22 you raise co w/ A8o and say you plan on calling a shove from sb/bb who each have 10bb. You need around 37% equity to make a call break-even. Can you give me an idea of what range you believe sb/bb would jam with? Vs any pair, axx, a8o+, jqs+,KJo+ you have 40%. Is this range accurate and do you take any edge here? Are many villians shoving any Ax here??
That looks like a pretty accurate range for the SB and BB, and I do think I need to r/call rather than r/f with A8o. Looking back at the hand, I would prefer an open-shove rather than min-raising, mainly because it does not allow the BB to defend.
approx 18 minutes and 30 min or so (blease bare with me i will describe the spot)
You open Ax from lp with two 10bb stacks in the blinds and you said you plan on calling them. Dont you think it might be closer toa fold since they cant really play back at your play light at all and you know your never in good shape with Ax.?
In the first spot, which tinyelvis also asked about, A8o has simply too much equity against the 10bb stacks' shoving range for me to r/f. If I were to have a weaker offsuit Ax, then folding is a possibility. I'm not sure which other spot you referenced later in the video.
hi, great vid.
you mentioned you were playing chip EV until the FT. So do you not alter your ranges much until then? i thought icmizer would change ranges a lot at the final 2 tables for example?
Thanks
ICM does play a small role at the final 2 tables, and is worth being aware of and altering your ranges slightly, but nowhere close to as big of a role as it does at the FT, where there is a payjump with each elimination.
Excellent video, and great work having the HRC sims ready to go ahead of time.
Thanks, Daniel
Hey Grayson thanks for the video!
At 38:02 If Gm_VALTER shoves AQ is a call? Which hands we should call there?
Remarkably, ICM recommends a fold, and only calling 4.7%, 88+ AQs+ AKo
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