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$100NL: Running Hot Fire on Ignition

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Tariq Haji

POSTED Aug 20, 2020

In a session that sees him with an incredible number of strong hands, Tariq focuses on eeking out value from opponents that routinely show up with the widest of ranges.

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RunItTw1ce 4 years, 8 months ago

4:50 you elect to check back here with AK. I used to check back this board a lot too because I didn't expect to get many folds on this texture. Video link below from Patrick Sekinger shows how this texture is range bet, at least in single raise pots at 95%!

https://www.runitonce.com/poker-training/videos/patrick-sekinger-nlhe-pro-poker-hands-review-no-limit-hold-em-analysis/

I asked this question in the comments if you check time stamp 38:18 mark you see 95% cbet range for 1/3 on T95r. I would think the T96ss is similar, at least when you hold AxKs and block some of the continue range.

What do you think about range betting this texture now? Different in SRP vs 3BP?

Tariq Haji 4 years, 8 months ago

I think SRP and 3bpot is like quite different especially given the positions.

When he calls a 3b LJ vs BTN I expect his range to be something like this:
AT-AQs, KTs-KQs, QJs, QTs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, TT-55

And nearly every hand in that range connects with this texture.

So given that I think 3bet pots are quite different!

Also, if you're curious about what his exact hand was in this hand, it was QQ.

Hope this comment helped!

Tariq

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 8 months ago

Maybe I need to go back to my old strategy and cbet more cautiously! What is your cbet %? Mine is pretty low around 56% because i've been checking a lot of TPWK and going for two later streets or taking free cards with fd on these connected boards, so I don't get blown off my equity.

My cbet strategy has been to cbet around half pot on 2 tone boards and if boards are 9 or lower. Rainbow boards that are Qxx Kxx or Axx i'll use more 1/3 sizing. Tried to increase donk bet frequency over check raise as well.

Thanks for the response. I'm getting confused in SRP vs 3 bet pots and mixing strategies. I think you hit calling range on the head.

Ryan 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey RunItTw1ce

I think one of the best things you can do going into every hand, is to consider your opponents most likely range. Once you can identify this, I think it becomes a bit easier how to build your own strategy.

For example, as Tariq points out, when you consider his range, you see that a cbet is not going to get through very often, so you will likely need to be firing multiple streets. You can then conclude that hands you want to be betting likely will want to have some type of blocker properties, good equity, or be value.

hope that helps

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 8 months ago

8 min mark you state low freq. squeeze or fold. This is a spot given its 2.5bb I am almost never folding. Am I burning money here? I put this hand into Snowie and shows -0.51 calling and 0.00 EV for squeezing PSB ($11.50); Half PSB ($7) has +0.05 EV.

You think snowie is building a pot IP and allowing more play-ability with small squeeze size? I might of been burning a S**T ton of money in this spot. This one spot, even though you are not involved, makes this entire video worth it! Thank you!

Tariq Haji 4 years, 8 months ago

I'm glad this spot was helpful to you!

While I don't think you're necessarily burning a sh*t ton of money in this pot, I certainly don't think you will be able to net a profit by calling. You invite the blinds to squeeze more, and your hand doesn't flop as well as you'd hope.

Not too sure the theory behind Snowie thinking 3betting small here finds some small EV but I can get behind it.

Ryan 4 years, 7 months ago

Hey RunItTw1ce

I would guess 76s is going to be a profitable call, unless the blinds are very aggressive. W a 2.5x sizing, and a cold call ahead of you, I think this is a fine hand to cold call unless the blinds are both squeezing appropriately(my guess is that most are not at 100NL on ignition, could be wrong tho). There are cases where I would fold(again, look to the blinds), or maybe if the two players ahead were both very solid/strong ranges/players, but I think most of the time overcalling here is totally reasonable. I think it largely depends on the table dynamics however. So just take a moment to consider who is involved, and then that will answer alot of questions for you.

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 8 months ago

21 min mark open A5s utg, CO 4 bets to $7.5, hero 4 bets to $21. Can you talk about your 4 betting range here?

31:15 with As10s on Ks Js Tx 6s 3x board when you face a XR to $32 and have $111 stack to shove, what do you think of smaller bet? I was thinking because you block Ts9s hands or Qs Ts hands, it is hard for him to have a flush to call with, maybe Qs9s... but that is just 1 combo. I was thinking smaller size is best given you block so many middling flushes and a hand like As5s would be more of a shove. Just saw the end of the video, shocking fold to me there, very few people would fold in my pool even though most people show up with the nuts.

37:30 you mentioned with JJ on JT85 after you check raise flop, you can go for a small bet or check on the turn. With a 1.5 SPR, why can't you just shove 1.5x pot with the hands you mentioned AQ, KQ, JJ, TT, & 88? Seems like we face a lot of check backs here after we check raise. If you have like 8 combos of AQ (give you fold half of them pre), 4 combos KQs, gives you 12 combos for bluffs and you have 9 set combos. Villain would still have to call off QQ+ right? QQ would be tough because he blocks a lot of your bluffs, but he might still call. Even with like $72 and pot of $56, just going half pot turn and half pot shove river makes more sense to me than checking. I think it's FPS trying to induce something going for double check raise.

What do you think about hourly rate between zone vs regular tables? One side you have smaller bb/100 but more hands per hour vs more bb/100 but less hands per hour.

Tariq Haji 4 years, 8 months ago

For my 4 betting range here; it'll include the obvious QQ,KK,AA,AK for value

And then for bluffs generally not too many. Like low frequency A4s,A5s, KJs, AQo.

That may honestly be it.

For the AsTs, I do agree that maybe I should go likle 80-85bb for my river 3 bet given all the big spades are on board and I have 2 big ones in my hand as well.

the JJ hand, yea I can get behind betting the turn. That was my initial reaction in video as you probably noticed as well, but I also thought there was some merit in checking.

So for zone vs regular. I used to exclusively play zone mainly because it's just easier to play shorter sessions and leave - whilst regular tables require a little set up with the hud and stuff. I personally got a little burnt out from zone and it became too robotic.

I enjoy regular tables with the slower pace and getting to think more about spots and also use my hud to make some interesting decisions.

Hope this helped!

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 8 months ago

So for zone vs regular. I used to exclusively play zone mainly because it's just easier to play shorter sessions and leave - whilst regulartables require a little set up with the hud and stuff. I personally got a little burnt out from zone and it became too robotic.

I enjoy regular tables with the slower pace and getting to think more about spots and also use my hud to make some interesting decisions.

What kind of win rate would you have on zone for 25NL / 50NL? I would assume around half of what regular tables are, maybe around 5bb/100? 10bb?

Brett Banks 4 years, 8 months ago

Regarding the softness if zone vs normal:

25 and 50 zone are both plenty soft though if I had to guess these tables are softer than even 25 zone. But the real kicker is that with zone plus anonymous tables you often aren’t sure if you’re dealing with a recreational or not. Even stack size tells aren’t super reliable because of the busted reload feature lol. Then on top of that you don’t really know if a player’s leaks are being too aggro or a station or whatever.

So even if the games are equal softness, because you can’t adjust specifically to each player your winrate will be considerably lower.

FranciscoLetsGo 4 years, 8 months ago

@32:15 i read a splitsuit article discussing that paired boards are a bit stickier than normal so you should expect to have to fire at least 2 barrels on them. i do understand the exploitative check back though.
paired boards

Tariq Haji 4 years, 8 months ago

Yea so like I think I'd barrel alot of my bluffs that have equity but no showdown value.

But once I turn top pair, I know my hand isn't worth triple barreling and I think he bluffs more often once I check back so that's why I decided to take that line

FranciscoLetsGo 4 years, 8 months ago

i noticed that you checked back when you had a strong hand a few times...sometimes players check back vs me and show up with the goods when i bet...one suggestion for vid 3 may be...how to know when you should respect the check back or see it as weak and double barrel.

OMGIsildurrrrman12 4 years, 8 months ago

Hey, Tariq Haji - Outstanding video; thank you! And I won't hold the running good against you. ;-P In fact, I think you got into some really interesting spots because of it. That last hand you reviewed with the flush over flush was especially insightful. While I initially thought about the Q4 of spades being at the top of his range and how a fishy opponent may re-jam the T-high flush in your shoes, once you got me thinking about what bluffs you could have there I finally saw the light. Thanks a bunch, Tariq, and keep up the excellent work!

Tariq Haji 4 years, 8 months ago

Hey OMGIsildurrrrman12

Thanks for the kind words as usual!

With regards to the Q4ss hand, yea I think given the fact all the big spades are on the board (KJ) and the (AT) being in my hand, it's tough to get looked up here by many hands except for the few Qxss combos left; and even that he found a very impressive in game fold.

I could maybe use this to my advantage and over bluff the As blocker here; but maybe going for 80bb on the river size would yield more profit.

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MattS 4 years, 8 months ago

Tariq Haji You mention a mid-strength suited connector as generally an easy fold rather than a cold-call on the button. How do you think about cold calling on the button?

Tariq Haji 4 years, 7 months ago

When did I say this? Suited connectors as an open on the button when everyone has folded will always be an open for me.

However, when facing an open I don't like cold calling much on the button. I generally play a 3 bet or fold strategy with all of my range unless the small/big blind is a clear weaker player that I want to encourage to enter the pot

MattS 4 years, 7 months ago

Sorry! you said it about cold calling is what I meant. I'll correct my post (i phrased it a crummy way) so I don't confuse ppl.

Ah gotcha. Thanks.

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