Very nice vidéo as always, i noticed that you have a very exploitative style compare to other coaches, it's seems to work very well. Is it specific to this site which seems softer than the other? Also i was wondering if bodog is a good rake structure to play on?
Thanks
Hey Tobias7, I'll answer both of your questions here.
You can definitely do some flatting in these positions; I generally only flat if the big blind is a clear weak player otherwise I much prefer to just 3b/fold.
Especially vs a large open like 3x. I 3b 77+ here for my pairs.
27:20 I see a lot of players using min 3 bets (click backs) and some other small sizing here. Wondering what you think about expanding your normal 3 bet range a bit wider, but using smaller sizing with these hands. AJo KQo QTs A9s 88-66. Trying to isolate the player while deep (200bb+) or even isolate weaker players at 100bb given cold 4 bets are pretty rare. Would expect some cold calls behind, but not much cold 4 bets. Also prevents a lot of squeezing if you did cold call. Maybe a player behind will fold a hand like TT, but would squeeze if you flatted.
Also a lot of grinders are "3bet or fold" and I think this mindset is stopping a lot of players from crushing. Coming from a live background I expand my range against weaker players to get more hands against them before someone else takes all the money. I feel too many grinders these days applying this 3 bet or fold strategy are preventing themselves from being crushers. They are too worried about keeping their sizing and ranges balanced, but in reality no one is playing close enough attention or they will never truly have a big enough sample against you to do anything about it.
There are just too many variables to account for to have any type of sample. Just because you make a 2.5x 3bet MP vs UTG doesn't mean you are doing it against everyone. It could just be because it's a weaker player or maybe its a stronger player but you are deeper.
Little over two months ago guy named Sp00led or something was playing $200/$400 and was a complete whale with like 90% vpip. Do you think they were only 3 betting him MP vs UTG with 99+? I saw some crazy hands with ATo J10o, anything that would flop well was being 3 bet with no F's given for players behind them. Just isolate the fish and take the money. Ranges go out the window. A lot of low stake games can be like this as well if people were not so fixed with "it's not in my range."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISk0ZDdQ8hY
Hands like this.
I like your point about the 3betting with a wider range for small size when deep. I think regs will have a tough time playin against it and generally lead towards a cautious route.
I do also agree about people mis-applying the 3bet or fold strategy. I am not strictly 3b or fold for this reason. The hand you link is pretty crazy postflop but I think ATo pre seems normal-ish to 3 bet against someone who is opening like 60%+ buttons.
I was curious about this turn check. I was thinking without a diamond I would mostly bet to get value from those Q9, JT, T9, AT, KJ, QJ, etc hands and some bdfd as well that peeled.
I can see your combo is only betting about 41% of the time here. I put 33%, 50%, and 66% sizing for the turn and using mostly 2/3 sizing when it does bet. Given weaker player I am likely to bet this more than the 40% showing. Seems to prefer to bet with a diamond. Opposite of what I thought. The AdKx is betting 70-75% of the time on this turn. Also not sure why AQ is betting more often than AK. That doesn't make any sense to me. I used Snowie ranges preflop, so BB has a decently tight range.
When turn goes XX, shows mostly calling with a lot of 2 pair hands on this river and raising Jx of course.
You can see where BB is getting it's bluffing range here on chart below. When action goes bet flop, X - X turn, and bet 75% river. I think calling the river really depends if villain calls half pot on flop with these smaller pairs or not and turns them into bluffs on the river. If these small pairs are not in range, then would also lean towards fold.
I have been playing zone, still small sample 20k hands. First 10k hands I was losing mostly because I didn't wanna fold QQ. Since then making 12-13bb on 25NL-50NL zone. Curious if hourly would be higher on reg tables or if I should stick to zone for these micro levels.
Lastly why don't they have 100NL zone? Goee 5NL, 25NL, 50NL, 200NL. Ignition seems to skip 10NL and 100NL but has those stakes for regular tables.
23mins - 89s vs 77 - You said you expect the turn Jam to get called often by TT+
What would your calling range be on the turn as I think exploitatively we should fold most if not all OPs and even fold the flop often on this board vs that flop sizing, particularly giving positions?
Hi Tariq Haji
at 28:57 what do think about betting 66%-80% pot on turn to charge both flush draws, broadway and wheel gutshots that developed as well as protection vs river bluffs?
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Thank you Tariq!
51:00 Is it really too thin to value ott with this hand? I mean he still have so many pair + draw combo we beat that he would call.
Hey LeftH !
Yea I guess could also bet/fold turn. I think bet/fold turn or check back both are viable here
Very nice vidéo as always, i noticed that you have a very exploitative style compare to other coaches, it's seems to work very well. Is it specific to this site which seems softer than the other? Also i was wondering if bodog is a good rake structure to play on?
Thanks
So bodog unfortunately has no rakeback.
And the rake for 50nl+ is 5% up to $4.
So for 50nl players, it's pretty steep and even for 100nl. But once you get to 200nl+ it's very reasonable.
At 19.30 you fold 66 on the BTN vs. a 3x open from CO. Is that a standard fold for you?
Do you have data which confirms that calling is not +EV?
Hey Tobias7, I'll answer both of your questions here.
You can definitely do some flatting in these positions; I generally only flat if the big blind is a clear weak player otherwise I much prefer to just 3b/fold.
Especially vs a large open like 3x. I 3b 77+ here for my pairs.
Hope that helped!
If yes, what is the worst pocket pair that you would call / 3bet?
Do you play a fold/3b strategy in that spot?
27:20 I see a lot of players using min 3 bets (click backs) and some other small sizing here. Wondering what you think about expanding your normal 3 bet range a bit wider, but using smaller sizing with these hands. AJo KQo QTs A9s 88-66. Trying to isolate the player while deep (200bb+) or even isolate weaker players at 100bb given cold 4 bets are pretty rare. Would expect some cold calls behind, but not much cold 4 bets. Also prevents a lot of squeezing if you did cold call. Maybe a player behind will fold a hand like TT, but would squeeze if you flatted.
Also a lot of grinders are "3bet or fold" and I think this mindset is stopping a lot of players from crushing. Coming from a live background I expand my range against weaker players to get more hands against them before someone else takes all the money. I feel too many grinders these days applying this 3 bet or fold strategy are preventing themselves from being crushers. They are too worried about keeping their sizing and ranges balanced, but in reality no one is playing close enough attention or they will never truly have a big enough sample against you to do anything about it.
There are just too many variables to account for to have any type of sample. Just because you make a 2.5x 3bet MP vs UTG doesn't mean you are doing it against everyone. It could just be because it's a weaker player or maybe its a stronger player but you are deeper.
Little over two months ago guy named Sp00led or something was playing $200/$400 and was a complete whale with like 90% vpip. Do you think they were only 3 betting him MP vs UTG with 99+? I saw some crazy hands with ATo J10o, anything that would flop well was being 3 bet with no F's given for players behind them. Just isolate the fish and take the money. Ranges go out the window. A lot of low stake games can be like this as well if people were not so fixed with "it's not in my range."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISk0ZDdQ8hY
Hands like this.
Hey RunItTw1ce
I like your point about the 3betting with a wider range for small size when deep. I think regs will have a tough time playin against it and generally lead towards a cautious route.
I do also agree about people mis-applying the 3bet or fold strategy. I am not strictly 3b or fold for this reason. The hand you link is pretty crazy postflop but I think ATo pre seems normal-ish to 3 bet against someone who is opening like 60%+ buttons.
I was curious about this turn check. I was thinking without a diamond I would mostly bet to get value from those Q9, JT, T9, AT, KJ, QJ, etc hands and some bdfd as well that peeled.
I can see your combo is only betting about 41% of the time here. I put 33%, 50%, and 66% sizing for the turn and using mostly 2/3 sizing when it does bet. Given weaker player I am likely to bet this more than the 40% showing. Seems to prefer to bet with a diamond. Opposite of what I thought. The AdKx is betting 70-75% of the time on this turn. Also not sure why AQ is betting more often than AK. That doesn't make any sense to me. I used Snowie ranges preflop, so BB has a decently tight range.
When turn goes XX, shows mostly calling with a lot of 2 pair hands on this river and raising Jx of course.
You can see where BB is getting it's bluffing range here on chart below. When action goes bet flop, X - X turn, and bet 75% river. I think calling the river really depends if villain calls half pot on flop with these smaller pairs or not and turns them into bluffs on the river. If these small pairs are not in range, then would also lean towards fold.
Hey so I also thought more about this hand since someone else in the comments also brought it up.
And after thinking about it, you and the other comment-er are for sure right; I should be betting this turn and look to check back most rivers!
What is your BB/100 in these games?
I really like your videoes btw :)
Hey Tobias7
I'm glad you enjoy them that means a lot to me!
My bb/100 is around 14.
I have been playing zone, still small sample 20k hands. First 10k hands I was losing mostly because I didn't wanna fold QQ. Since then making 12-13bb on 25NL-50NL zone. Curious if hourly would be higher on reg tables or if I should stick to zone for these micro levels.
Lastly why don't they have 100NL zone? Goee 5NL, 25NL, 50NL, 200NL. Ignition seems to skip 10NL and 100NL but has those stakes for regular tables.
Any feed back is helpful!
Nice content. Would love to see more ignition!
Thanks Superspace; glad you enjoy it.
If you haven't checked out my other vids, there's about 6 more with Ignition content.
And another one coming soon!
Great video. You always make Great videos. Keep it up!
Great video. So many nuggets. Why do you play 6 handed VS 9.
Hello, I'm enjoying your videos, thank you.
23mins - 89s vs 77 - You said you expect the turn Jam to get called often by TT+
What would your calling range be on the turn as I think exploitatively we should fold most if not all OPs and even fold the flop often on this board vs that flop sizing, particularly giving positions?
Hi Tariq Haji
at 28:57 what do think about betting 66%-80% pot on turn to charge both flush draws, broadway and wheel gutshots that developed as well as protection vs river bluffs?
hey!
The problem is most of those hands you're trying to get value from would have probably bet the turn themselves with that much equity.
I basically just want to check back and take my showdown value
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