Hi Tariq, on table 2 @ 23:04 you double barrel your AA in a 3-bet pot on the turn vs. the weaker player. You said if he check/jammed the turn you didn't think that weaker players would be raising Jx, that he might have a 6x, but you'd call it off anyway. What is the reason you'd call it off? If my math is right it looks like you'll need 36% equity. Are you calling because he might have some merge being a weaker player? Are you calling because your closing the action and you think you'll meet the required equity target? Are you calling just because the solver would and you don't know what he'd be check jamming on the turn?
Let's look at the exact same scenario vs. this player and the board is A725 rainbow you held AK/AKs, and he check jammed the turn, would your thoughts change on that board and would you call off needing between 25-35% equity? What would your thought process be there in a nutshell.
For the AA hand, I think I would end up folding vs a jam. This is purely because weaker and more passive players will never check shove a draw or top pair in my experience and rather just call.
So since this guy was on the passive side, I think his jam will always be 6x!
Your AK example is very similar; if it's a 3 bet pot then no chance I'm folding but if it's a single raised pot against that same weak passive player, I'd certainly fold AK as I think the jamming range is exclusively 2p+
At around 10:30 when you check/jam the river on AKJQJ, is the logic to attempt to get other Tx to fold? Why not bluffcatch with the straight? I feel there are definitely players in this pool who never fold even weaker flushes in this spot. In addition, I have literally seen people flat QQ BB vs. SB. Probably the same types I have seen limp/calling the BTN with AK. You see some bizarre things in these pools.
Yep the logic is to get other Tx to fold and to get small flushes to fold.
I think bluff catching is pretty poor here because I can't see how he can be bluffing. Regarding the comment about some people flatting QQ bvb, I think this is very very rare as yes I have seen it maybe a handful of times in my sample, but it's not common at all; hope that helps!
For the AA hand, I think I would end up folding vs a jam. This is
purely because weaker and more passive players will never check shove
a draw or top pair in my experience and rather just call.
So since this guy was on the passive side, I think his jam will always
be 6x!
Your AK example is very similar; if it's a 3 bet pot then no chance
I'm folding but if it's a single raised pot against that same weak
passive player, I'd certainly fold AK as I think the jamming range is
exclusively 2p+
Thanks Tariq, I just want to clarify your answer so I don't get what your saying wrong.
I'm referring to a 3-bet pot like the situation in the video.
-You are folding the AA vs. the turn ck/r, even thought it's a 3-bet pot vs. this player because he's mostly 6x when he ck/jams
-You are calling off the AK in a 3-bet pot vs. a turn jam
-You are folding AA and AK in srp.
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Hi Tariq, on table 2 @ 23:04 you double barrel your AA in a 3-bet pot on the turn vs. the weaker player. You said if he check/jammed the turn you didn't think that weaker players would be raising Jx, that he might have a 6x, but you'd call it off anyway. What is the reason you'd call it off? If my math is right it looks like you'll need 36% equity. Are you calling because he might have some merge being a weaker player? Are you calling because your closing the action and you think you'll meet the required equity target? Are you calling just because the solver would and you don't know what he'd be check jamming on the turn?
Let's look at the exact same scenario vs. this player and the board is A725 rainbow you held AK/AKs, and he check jammed the turn, would your thoughts change on that board and would you call off needing between 25-35% equity? What would your thought process be there in a nutshell.
Thanks.
Hi PutMyRobeOnRITE,
For the AA hand, I think I would end up folding vs a jam. This is purely because weaker and more passive players will never check shove a draw or top pair in my experience and rather just call.
So since this guy was on the passive side, I think his jam will always be 6x!
Your AK example is very similar; if it's a 3 bet pot then no chance I'm folding but if it's a single raised pot against that same weak passive player, I'd certainly fold AK as I think the jamming range is exclusively 2p+
At around 10:30 when you check/jam the river on AKJQJ, is the logic to attempt to get other Tx to fold? Why not bluffcatch with the straight? I feel there are definitely players in this pool who never fold even weaker flushes in this spot. In addition, I have literally seen people flat QQ BB vs. SB. Probably the same types I have seen limp/calling the BTN with AK. You see some bizarre things in these pools.
Hey alexp17,
Yep the logic is to get other Tx to fold and to get small flushes to fold.
I think bluff catching is pretty poor here because I can't see how he can be bluffing. Regarding the comment about some people flatting QQ bvb, I think this is very very rare as yes I have seen it maybe a handful of times in my sample, but it's not common at all; hope that helps!
Thanks Tariq, I just want to clarify your answer so I don't get what your saying wrong.
I'm referring to a 3-bet pot like the situation in the video.
-You are folding the AA vs. the turn ck/r, even thought it's a 3-bet pot vs. this player because he's mostly 6x when he ck/jams
-You are calling off the AK in a 3-bet pot vs. a turn jam
-You are folding AA and AK in srp.
Did I get you right?
Thanks.
How do you get your HUD to work on ignition? I've tried a few times to load up HM3 on the slow tables but I never get any stats
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