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T-Rex $162 Review (part 3)

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T-Rex $162 Review (part 3)

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Stephen Chidwick

POSTED Dec 09, 2013

Stephen resumes the action at the final table, mindful of the ICM considerations necessitated by having a few short stacks hanging on and looking to inch up the pay scale.

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Andre Bilenky 11 years, 4 months ago

35:00, AQs hand , dont you think your range is capped otr to at best nut straight? You would not bet turn with 2pair or set right? So against your small sizing , villain can bluff shove alot and he can rep anything he wants.  

46:00, 88, are you limp/reraising/calling off ? 

Nice series !!

Stephen Chidwick 11 years, 4 months ago

Hey Andre, thanks for the comments. 

The AQs hand you are right that I would only rarely bet a set and almost never 2pair on the turn so a good opponent can exploit us by overbluffing in this spot. The reason I had at the time was that I didnt know the villain and had seen him pass up on some spots earlier at the ft to 3bet me or open from late position that it seemed like he wasnt getting out of line much and it takes a really strong player to be bluffjamming that spot at a ft as 2nd in chips vs the chipleader...he is risking a ton. It's an exploitative bet designed to maximise value vs the population tendencies of tournament players to overcall and underbluff here but I have since learned that my opponent was a very good player and friend of mine so while I think the bet is fine vs who I thought I was up against, I agree that it is somewhat faceup and is a mistake vs good players.

88 I would have called a raise pre.


CairyHunts 11 years, 4 months ago

Midvideo w the AQ hand on JJT98, you bet the river and get shoved on. You were analysing his range pretty correctly, which kinda makes me believe that there's no real value in betting in the first place. If we assume that the hands we extract value from are KJ and AJ only (which is optimistic at best and v few combos), and the rest of his Jx combo's that should fit his range are JQ, JT, J9 and J8, and prob fold out the bottom two combos, isn't x/c the most optimal line (obv depending the sizing)? Seems to be you might be valuecutting yourself a little by bet/folding since his showdownrange is pretty limited vs his shove/fold range. Maybe valuecutting isn't the appropriate term here, but couldn't find a better suitable word.. We aslo allow him to bet for thin value/weird bluffs, since we're effectively bluffcatching at best.


Stephen Chidwick 11 years, 4 months ago

I'm not sure why I didnt mention it in the analysis but I think he has a 7 reasonably often. J7,97,87,76, 75 and any 7sxs all make perfect sense on all streets and will likely pay off a small river bet. Thats a lot of combos. 

WeKnowEverything 11 years, 4 months ago

T9s bluff on A73, you mention in your commentary that he would be far behind your value hands with most of his cbets. Are you saying you actually raise hands for value here? 

CairyHunts 11 years, 4 months ago

Our defending range is most likely ahead of his opening range, so yes, you can actually raise here for value. Although this flop most likely isnt the best example.


Stephen Chidwick 11 years, 4 months ago

Hi weknoweverything, thanks for watching. Please timestamp questions so I can review them easily. Yes I would certainly raise all 2pr+ hands with a significant frequency.

gauss 11 years, 2 months ago

Hey Stevie, do u think the Q5s call is so easy, since a lot of players are not shoving nash, especially in FTs

Stephen Chidwick 11 years, 2 months ago

gauss...timestamps in future please but ty for the question. Playing sngs I get mad at myself for missing +0.10 spots or calling -0.10...Q5s is +1.37 which would be a huge blunder. Remember, this is the nash equilibrium so if he is shoving either wider or tighter than nash we are making money. If there is one spot where people often shove wider than nash its bvb with <10bb stacks so without additional info about my specific opponent I won't deviate from the math.

Kukikuk 10 years, 6 months ago

Hi Stephen,

Love your videos. The best tourney coach in the site IMO.

What do you think about limping in early position with the whole range that we play in a FT as the medium stack? (I know that you like limping the SB in this situation also)

It looks like a great idea for decreasing ICM confrontations, what do you think?

Thanks a lot!

Pout 9 years, 3 months ago

Hi stevie,
when you answered to gauss "Remember, this is the nash equilibrium so if he is shoving either wider or tighter than nash we are making money.",i'm not sur i understood what u mean:
supposing is only shoving KK+,calling with the nash range equals=losing money?I know it's not the case,I was just wondering:
If we know a player is nitty,should we call with a tighter range than nash ?
vnice vids,thx !

Stephen Chidwick 9 years, 2 months ago

I meant that if he is shoving significantly tighter than nash we will be making a lot of money from all the walks we are getting that we shouldn't be. This will outweigh the ev we lose from making incorrect calls vs the tight range so we make more money than if we were both playing nash.
If we have reliable info that he is shoving too tight we should def call tighter to exploit but I think you need to know a player quite well to say this. Just because someone is tight overall it doesn't mean their push/fold is incorrect.

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