Super Tuesday (part 3)
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Regarding the KK vs JJ hand. His range doesn't hit at all in that board (only draws, overpairs and sets hit) so imo your bet sizing will make him fold all his hands except overpairs or sets, that's why I would choose a smaller bet sizing (in case I bet I'd bet 34-39k with ALL my range which is enough to make him fold a ton of his range). I wouldn't be betting here though (not for commitment reasons or pot control bs, I agree with you that a better hand will always take our stack on this spot) becouse my 3betting range there consists on broadways (which aren't strong enough to call vs a 13%UTG raise) that include a ten and would like to realise one street of equity by checking back and then bluff 2 streets in case he checks back to us on the turn. While a cbet makes our life easier I don't think it's the most +EV choice, by checking we protect our checking back range and we can still get all of his stack in 2 streets (we're not losing value, we're just letting him 1 card of equity in exchange of 1 card of equity for our range and protection of our checking back range, also the 1 card of equity goes better for our range since its got more equity from the Tx). Also his range shouldn't have a ton of tens becouse he is a 19/14 he shouldn't be opening a lot of Tx from UTG that call the 3bet. QTs would prolly fold, you block KTs and he might call or 4bet JTs. ATo would also fold and he'd call ATs or maybe 4bet. THEREFORE we shouldn't be afraid of a 6. His range has lot more jacks so the toughest turn to play would be a T, but that's 4 outs man, deal with it :D
Briefly, I'd check all of my range here except almost pure bluffs aka AXs with backdoor FD or bd STR8D. He won't expect you to have just pure bluffs here on ur cbetting range so even though it's an unbalanced cbet he wouldn't be exploiting you by raising.
Let me know your views and thanks for the vid!
Hey Davis,
I think the fact that im checking behind with Kings here does not mean that im checking behind any single overpair, i would chose to check back with some hands that and able to call twice, but i will try to select the hands that loose less EV when checking (ie. AA/JJ/TT/ATs). When i hold KK its more possible for my opponent have hands as ATs/TT/JJ/QJs/QTs/AJs and those ones are hands that benefits a lot of me checking back. You could consider checking back when you hold hands that are blocking that kind of hands so you wont need so much protection bet.
I do agree that this is a board where you should check a significant amount of the times, but it does not mean that you should always check. You clearly have hands that want always bet. And since you are playing kind of a polarize strategy it has sense to pick a big size.
Btw, i am very sorry for responding so late this time. I usually respond very quickly and try to create feedback in my videos. But being in Vegas competing in the World Series had me very busy these last days.
Regarding 86s hand, if his cbetting range is so weak there and you mainly just want to protect your hand imo the sizing was a bit too big. I think betting something like 35k accomplish what we want perfectly and it's cheaper
Your accent is hilarious Juan!!!!!!
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What was the SD of the AJo hand that you defended from the BB?
ok so maybe you hide the hole cards in part 289 or next life I guess, THANKS ALOT once again!
Minute 10, I didn't understand why bet KK on the 48J49 river. Maybe better to check/call and maybe induce bluffs or value bets from worse. You don't want to face a raise on the river. It seems like a dangerous board where you could be beat, but if you check, he would probably value bet two pair like J9s, 98s.
Hey betgo,
Its difficult to improve the EV of betting river by checking here since IP does not have too many double floats that i want to induce a bluff by checking the river, and since he could be checking back most of his Jx i think its very clear that ev betting > ev checking. I think it would be a more interesting discussion whether i should always bet the flop or even the turn with a holding like this.
at 30:16 can you jam river and maybe represent a full house with jj? He never has jj, 99 or kk as he would get those in pre flop
Hey LO,
Its an option. But i dont like it too much since JJ its a holding that you should mix between checking and cbeting the flop, and probably even mixing the turn as well, so you dont have too many combos of JJ on the river. And its pretty easy to get yourself very unbalance if you start adding random offsuited combos like this in a sequence where your raising range should be very small.
Hey Juan,
Great video! You articulate post-flop decisions very well, which is not always the case with mtg videos. Two questions:
@4.00 you cold 4 bet AKs - do you even consider calling 3bet and not 4betting? I assume you call if UTG 5bets, but this is 70bb 5 bet and it seems gross to get in 70bb with your stack position this late in mtt. So questions - why do you think 4 betting is better than calling 3 bet? and would you call 70bb 5bet or fold?
@20.00 when you x/r j64r flop, what do you do on brick turn and why?
Thanks again for truly awesome series!
Hello
@ around 24 minute mark: you really think that you should defend 24o BBvsBU vs ~20BB stack? It's about bottom 5% of starting hands and really I cannot see any merit to defending that, even with antes.
Isn't just folding best option, or even 3beting like you did around 33 minute mark in similar situation w 72s?
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