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Sunday $500 MTT: Final Table

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Grayson Ramage

POSTED Oct 05, 2018

Grayson picks up where he left off at the start of the final table with a quick look at the stack sizes and his approach before jumping right into the hands.

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pr0wler 6 years, 5 months ago

In the video it was mentioned you felt like you were getting run over a bit when it was 3 handed. When you are losing pots consecutively, in this case mainly due to poor cards, I feel it's unlikely the opponents will continue to try to put excessive pressure. This is the inflection point where, in my experience, the person bleeding chips tends to get frustrated and start making plays and I think the other players know that. So after losing a number of pots in a short amount of time, I feel the probability of them exploiting this is relatively low.

Of course, this isn't actually a solution to the situation, but rather just a comment on I would be surprised if the guy to your left thought "hey this guy is playing a bit passively, let's try to run him over every single pot in every situation possible!" and more likely he caught a run of good or relatively decent cards.

Grayson Ramage 6 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the comment pr0wler. That's a very good point, and a good thing to remember in shorthanded final table situations. It's very easy to feel like you are getting run over when you get a string of bad cards, miss a few flops, and/or have your opponents get a string of good cards. This can be very frustrating in a final table situation when the stakes are very high, but remaining calm and not forcing bad plays is very important.

schifty1 6 years, 5 months ago

when u make the nuts w AQ otr w less than a psb I think shove. why can't u turn stuff into bluffs? are u gonna do an exploit where ur always bluffing by shoving and always using a small size to vb? not in love w that. would just shove this and most of the stuff w rel little showdown value and 2 relevant cards as a bluff

also I try to use stuff like K2o/Q2o to "bluff"raise over limps. Doesn't seem like too much hand to fold to l/rr and you accomplish some things w the blocker like immediate fold equity by reducing l/c and l/rr, have more eq realization by reducing l/rr and have additional eq against l/c.

my 2 cents. thanks for the vid and any arguments/criticism wr to my approach

Grayson Ramage 6 years, 5 months ago

Thanks for the comments. Like I mentioned in the video, it's pretty tough for me to have many bluffs in that spot, maybe a few flush draw combos and some lower PP, which is why I went with a smaller size.
I agree with you that bluff raising offsuit combos of Kx, Qx, Jx is a good strategy because they have relevant blockers and also don't play very well postflop.

betgo 6 years, 5 months ago

In the 77 hand around minute 3, IMO the river is a call. The chipleader can have some junk and just be defending and floating for a small price, and it is an easy bluff on the river..He is defending close to ATC, so the chances he has a hand that beats 7s OTR are small. I would be tempted to shove the river if I didn't have showdown value.

Grayson Ramage 6 years, 5 months ago

Even if he is defending close to ATC, he certainly is not floating ATC on the flop. Also, I block a lot of his missed gutshots, which removes a significant portion of bluffs from his range. I think it is pretty hard to construct a reasonable range for him that would make my hand a call on the river.

betgo 6 years, 5 months ago

The cbet is for 27% pot, so he can float a lot with the big stack. The problem is that what beat you is mostly aces, nines, 88-AA, and boats. He 3-bets some of his aces and good pps preflop. So you are ahead of about 75% of his preflop range OTR. His range is whatever. He can easily make a play with the big stack is this situation, getting you to fold when you don't have an ace. It depends on the player, and my approach may seem old school, but I would not give the big stack credit here. I also think you are close to the top of your range that cbets and checks. You could have a lot of high card hands that totally missed here.

wadja94 6 years, 4 months ago

Hi!
The 21:38 hand (AQo) once you check back the flop what are the arguments for calling a close to pot size bet turn which is 1/4 of our stack also since we block a lot of his bluffs with the Q and the A of heart?
Are there some rivers where you would call an all in except an A or a T?

Grayson Ramage 6 years, 1 month ago

I agree that my blockers aren't great, since I do block his nut flush draws and a lot of his straight draws with my Q. I also think it was a mistake to check back this flop, since this board should be an automatic small cbet with range. I think my turn call is probably fairly close in EV to folding, depending on how often he is leading turn. I planned on folding to a shove on non A and T rivers.

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