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GTO/Exploit Hybrid 2021

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Stoyan Obreshkov

POSTED Aug 17, 2021

Making his Run It Once debut, Stoyan Obreshkov provides a brief introduction on his poker career and approach to the game before tackling the larger topic of blending GTO and exploit styles in poker picking the best of both worlds.

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Sam1234 3 years, 7 months ago

It would be great to upload hands on checkdecide and go through them in a series. So we can play them first and then listen to your thought process.

Stoyan Obreshkov 3 years, 7 months ago

That's a great idea! I use checkdecide quite a lot myself and find it quite useful for discussing hands and learning from other players.
Is there any specific area you would want to cover(3bet pots, icm, exploits etc.) or just a whole tournament?

SoundSpeed 3 years, 7 months ago

Great first video!

At 25:20 I have always felt snap decisions are weaker and are hands like big draws. If they had a big made hand, a marginal draw or a bluff they would need to take some time to figure out how to play them.

Stoyan Obreshkov 3 years, 7 months ago

Timing tells depend on the complexity of the spot and several factors like board texture, player tendencies, icm, how much does our opponent care about the situation in terms of money and experience, etc.

For example, early phase of the tournament a player faces check/raise holding a combo draw with 30-40bbs. Playing a lot of tables, he will probably snap shove this hand as it has enough equity but spend some time thinking with top set just to show weakness and let us bluff on future streets.
However, the situation with QQ at 25:20 is totally different and players can not figure it out in their minds so fast since it is a complex and rare spot. The SPR is low and I am raising in position big portion of my stack. My assumption is that he immediately thought that I am committed and wanted to get paid with trips.

My thought process in the example above is based on my experience and understanding of psychology. I do think that It might be wrong in some situations but will be right enough of the time so this fold holds true.

K-Pingu 3 years, 7 months ago

One of the most interesting and beneficial new Elite coaches for me in a long time and I'm definitely going to continue my membership (was thinking of taking a break after this month) if more this kind of videos will be coming anytime soon =)

Douggyfr3sh 3 years, 7 months ago

Really excellent video! Loved the approach to hand reviews with GTO/Exploit hybrid, very well explained

EDIT: Would LOVE to see some more videos where you review hands with a solver, and then discuss the exploitative adjustments we can make from a GTO baseline

Agarwa30 3 years, 6 months ago

I really liked the video. Getting player perspective for high pressure hand reviews gives a glimpse into how professionals think and make decisions. Please keep making content.
As a suggestion for future video topics, I would really interested in understanding how you profile players online (when hud isn’t allowed) and in live games.

ninadawg 3 years, 6 months ago

what was the book you mentioned towards the beginning?

Stoyan Obreshkov 3 years, 6 months ago

Deep Work by Cal Newport.

I also recommend The Mental Game of Poker by Jared Tendler to absolutely every poker player that has asked me about mental game.

Both books can be very helpful outside of the tables too as the concepts inside are aplicable in a wide variety of situations.

Anima 3 years, 6 months ago

Refreshing approach.

I liked your insights on these two top pros psychology and a small part of the video being about mental game.

Would love to see similar strategy reads against other player types : weaker mtt reg / weaker cash reg in sunday mtt / cautious rec / spewy rec,.. Live timing tell soulreads or population data.

Also interested in your warmup and cooldown practices. I get excited and can't sleep especially if I win and binge-eat after long sunday sessions myself.

Stoyan Obreshkov 3 years, 5 months ago

Thank you for the comment!
I like the idea about sharing my warmup and cooldown practices as it is something very important for our performance.
I will try to pick up spots that include reads on specific player types and dive into how our reads make us deviate from GTO.

LDH44 3 years, 6 months ago

Refreshing to watch a video about exploits, really enjoyed the way you explain things and will keep my eye out for your content! Would be interesting to see a video about your approach to exploiting GTO play and mistakes players using GTO theory are making without fully understanding how they should be playing.

Stoyan Obreshkov 3 years, 5 months ago

Thank you!
High percentage of the players out there got their hands on solvers and GTO. However, in my experience, there is a process of digesting information after you study before you can actually make good use of it in practice.

I will use an idea from Jared Tendler to divide the stages of learning a skill like this:
- unconscious incompetence (I don't know about 3bet bluffs)
- conscious incompetence (I know about 3bet bluffs but I don't know how)
- conscious competence (I know how to 3bet bluff)
- unconscious competence (I know how to 3bet bluff without thinking about it)

Very often when we play online we have a lot of tables up and we don't have enough time to think. Sometimes towards the end of the session/series we are low on energy and that also affects our decisions. In situations like this when we are using limited resources, we usually go to our B game and autopilot spots. We play well overall but often take suboptimal lines than we would if we were playing our A game. So even if we have recently studied some concept we will have hard time implementing it in this state because it is new information and it has not reached the level of unconscious competence.
Another type of mistake is when we apply certain concept but in the wrong situation. This happens when we are too eager to experiment with new information or when we watched a good player do something that is new to us and we apply it without realizing that he did it in a different scenario.
Last but not least, GTO players often seek the GTO response in their minds instead of playing the actual spot. This makes them inflexible in spots they did not study enough.

This is why I see a lot of opportunity to exploit mistakes players are doing trying to stick too close to GTO and will include real situations in future videos.

goonjanmall 3 years, 5 months ago

Mindset Q - How to tackle boredom when you're playing 1-2 tables online OR live instead of usual 10-12?

I usually watch netflix on the side - but that is a leak 100%. Thoughts on how to plug this?

LDH44 3 years, 5 months ago

I can totally relate with feeling this "boredom", but this year I've focused on playing 4 tables max and really observing everything your opponents do you can gain so much and capitalise in situations that are normally autopiloted so far I've had my best year yet with game count going down significantly. I know this is obvious but put on some music you like or a podcast that you can listen to watching anything on the side is just crazy if you treat poker like a job. Good luck sir

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