Steve Paul Reviews RunItTw1ce
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5 min K6d UTG 3x vs BB. I am generally defending something like K5s+ vs UTG Villain ended up having 55 here.
8:20 7d2d on the 76QAcc board villain actually bluffed me with 33 here.
8:26 T7o SB RFI: I must of rolled a really low # (low = aggressive) to open T7o here. Usually the 8Xo region will be opens for me in the SB. A3o+, K8o+, Mix (Q8x), J8+ T8o+, 87o+. Bottom of my off suite region. Post flop the turn is a blunder for sure. My sizing choice is fine, but as you said there are a lot of KX and QX or even 9x that want to over bet this turn. As 9x is OE and Qx is double gutter a more equity to improve. Villain had ATo here. I also want to point out cbetting OOP is a big leak of mine. Where I am in the high 40s for cbetting OOP when I should be some where in the 30s. Something I started drilling more on yesterday for different formations.
12:11 SB vs BTN AQ vs 76h we see villain's cards because he folded and showed. It is kind of strange that even some showdown hands it doesn't show their cards, but if person folds and manually shows their cards they will appear on the replayer. Also vs a typical 2.5x and 7.5x+ sizing I would not 4 bet AQo here, would just be a pure fold for me, but given all the data small 3bets are usually hands that are very marginal, where they want to play HU, they want initiative, but they don't want to play a big pot. Once in a great while you get players like Luke Johnson using small 3bets with AA/KK and I end up getting destroyed LOL.
13:30 99 MP vs SB 3BP Q83hh-Tx board on the turn I was thinking I will have a lot of J10s, QJs, T9s, 98s, etc type hands where folding a naked gutter isn't too bad and would rather have a pair + gutter, but also if villain is barreling a hand like AK, rivering a J could be bad news. Same for if villain is barreling AJ, river a 9 could be bad news for me. Lot of reverse implied odds if I float a gutter here. Villain had AsAc here.
14:50 with QQ ISO BU vs MP. On the A73r mostly betting entire range IP, then OOP will be checking a bunch of KK-JJ hands. Villain had a random Js4s here. But I wanted to note whenever I get 30% pot odds it's mostly players clicking the raise "3/4 pot" button. I think there is a tell in there some where, at least with identifying recs who are not thinking about their sizing and just clicking buttons. Not sure about a tell in terms of strength yet though.
Going to split my comment into multiple video comments as it is quite long already and if a discussion develops won't be too much confusion on which hand we are talking about. Excellent feed back so far, just wanted to add in some spoilers and my thought process to some of your feed back.
16:20 KsKd on the As-8h-8d board I elected to cbet here because I was double blocking bdfd. If I had KcKx I would likely check. I am not sure how to treat this board actually, I am leaning towards I should check even double blocking the bdfd because I don't have any 8x really in my range. I have some K8s but not pure open for me and some 87s / 98s but not a ton of 8x. As I am folding the Q8s, J8s, and 86s type hands preflop. On the other side I know solver (wizard) likes to attack paired boards. Maybe more so IP than OOP. I think I either have to open wider for board coverage or check more of my range here. On the other side there is a "perceived range" being anonymous pool. Would like to discuss this one a bit further if you don't mind. Not really sure what to do.
Also for ignition zone you are allowed to play 2 tables per stake with a max of 4 tables. I started out back in February playing 25NL and moved up to 200NL. Depending on the number of entrants in the pool being 25+ players per stake I'll mix two tables of 200NL and two tables of 50NL. Other times I even mix two tables 200NL and two tables of 25NL. As 25NL and 200NL seem to run the most in terms of early afternoon. Usually after 3pm or so 25, 50, and 200 are all 30-50+ players but going to play whatever is running when I login. Also I think it's a pretty good idea to play 2 table of 50Nl and 2 table 25NL for 15-30 minutes as a nice warm up to make sure you are actually on your A-Game after a study session. So this video is a mix of 50NL and 200NL. They do not have 100NL or I would be playing 100NL (2) and 200NL (2). No idea why they don't have that level for zone, but have it for regular tables. Some times you can tell what stake it is based on the color of the chips. Red = $5, Green = $25, and black = $100. I prefer to watch videos in BBs but I can submit a video in the future in $ if it is preferred.
Right I should have remembered that about max 2/stake. When I play Ignition I typically play 2 zone and 2 PS zoom or sometimes 2 zone + 2 reg. No clue why they don't have 100 zone, maybe they feel like not enough volume to run all 3? Didn't think about using the chips to tell stakes, but I also prefer looking at hands in BB. I was a leave it in $ guy for a long time but once I switched to BB I couldn't understand how I ever did it any other way.
About the KK hand, these paired boards with an A play weirdly in general. We just have a lot of hands that are likely best but need no protection, have their equity greatly reduced when it goes bet/call (or especially bet/raise), and can't really put in 3 decent sized bets. As a result of those 3 I think we just play a lot of checks on the flop.
20:28 with AJo BB vs MP. I did check solver it's only a lead here about 15% of the time. Card is better for BB range on the A9Tss-7cc board but looks like most of the donking range is coming from flush draws (without a pair) and 8x without a pair i.e Qh8h hands. Not a huge error, but have to be careful with my frequencies here.
20:36 ATo BvB 3BP: the stack size was the reason I chose to play my hand more aggressive. In the video you said he's 100bb deep, but starts the hand with 93bb. Typically I view less than 100bb stacks to be more bluff heavy or at least more volatile with getting weaker hands in much lighter. Villain actually had QJo here (lighter side of 3 betting) and also (lighter side of floating vs XR). This was a 200NL hand btw you can tell by the chip colors.
28min T9s on the T96KT board good insight into checking the river. Honestly felt like it just gets checked back too often from hands like 98s, 97s, 88, 77, 76s, and even some KQ KJ might check back some frequency of the time, so I elected to bet. However, I do think check raising and trying to stack a hand like AT, QT, JT, or QJ has a lot of merit to it as well. Also like the turn block (1/3) sizing. Will have to mix that into my game with some marginal QQ, JJ, AT, or weaker 2 pair hands on the turn, so I gain some value and it doesn't go XX. Also gets called by a lot of weaker hands, where a bigger bet will make hands like 88/77 just fold. So 50% - 33% - check makes a lot of sense. Villain had KQo this hand.
30min TT CO vs MP 3BP on the Q94hh-7cc-Jx board villain had AcJc. I considered turning my hand into a bluff here with double blockers to K10s, but I thought a hand like T9s would make for a much better bluff candidate. I do think this spot was really close between call and fold. I think I typically run into a lot of AQ, KQ, QTs, AJs, J10s, KJs, etc here more than A5h or AK. It does happen, just not sure if they are bluffing 1 out of 5 times here.
31min BTN limps, Hero ISO AdKs BTn showed up with AhQh here LOL I just don't know what to say...
33 min Co open, Hero 3bet J10s, BB cold 4. two folds. Solver is close to pure folding all the weaker suited broadways, A10s, K10s, QJs, QTs, J10s. Looks like mostly the AJs+, KJs+, and PP that continue here. Villain had 99 here in the BB, so I wouldn't hate my defend vs this hand. Typically 99 should be a pure fold given the action, so little surprised there.
35min BTN vs SB 3bP. villain had 77 on the A43r-9dd-K board.
35:25 mention ISO raise J9s. I do think it is close for OOP ISO. What range are you looking to ISO OOP? I know the position of the limper matters some, but just a rough guideline? Mostly ISO like a MP range OOP? and ISO a CO range IP?
Final hand AA on the QJ4r-Tcc-6c board villain had QhJh. Pretty thin raise! Curious if I ever fold AK (no club) on this river vs the raise given the Q/J on the flop are not clubs so he will have more Q9c KQc J9c KJc etc type hands.
Maybe a bit Bias but thought it was an excellent review. Apologies for my long comments, but I think community will enjoy knowing some of the correct lines, thought process, and spoilers since the replayer did not seem to show their hands unless they manually showed or it went XX on the river. Look forward to part 2. Might limit my comments to just saying the spoilers for part 2.
20:36 Yeah I agree the less than full stack means more likely to be a weaker player (though not a perfect read because adding on sometimes doesn't work right away)
28min T9s, I've had that experience of looking at the sim, seeing the block and thinking "yeah that does make sense!" a lot of times, still struggle to find it in game.
35:25 Not a spot I have a really good feel for what's going to be good, but something like an MP opening range seems reasonable? Possible I'm too wide here but you see some really crazy stuff getting open limped sometimes
Appreciate the hole card info (I do look at a few hands with hole cards in part 2), thanks again for the footage!
Great video, would be a nice to a see a live play vid of RunItTwice with Steve Paul reviewing 2-4 tables.
RunItTw1ce Well done my friend. All that work you are putting in is working out quite well. I like the format. The T9dd hand and the AA bet/fold river hands we the most interesting IMO. I think the solver is probably checking more on river since we block the presence of 99 in his range so TT will bet more often than T9 since we unblock the 3 combos of 99. Not sure how the line went or if it makes sense for him to have 99 in the line but that is probably the explanation.
Steve Paul Love the format. So easy to follow with the consistency of the table (pausing live play gets confusing to me sometimes. I think this format is awesome if players send you filtered out spots like "turn probe opportunity" or "river probe opportunity" or "raise c bet opportunity in BB vs SB" or 'check/raise opportunity".
RunItTw1ce and I have done some pool work with a few other guys in Discord and we have the overall %'s down pretty well for the Ignition pool through running the spots in Hand 2 Note and having a massive sample.
All in all, great video and keep up the good work!!
TT on the T96KT board, the TT blocks too many TX that calls the flop and checks back the turn. 99 would bet the turn more often, but hands like A10, QT, J10 will check back. Where T9s, still leaves 1 combo of each in BTN's range which needs to bet the river. Steve shows this at 28:18 in his PIO sim for IP betting range. TT blocks too many combos, so just bets itself.
Aren't you the OOP player in that hand? Going to go back and look. Didn't you c bet flop, check turn and then bet river OOP?
HawksWin Your action is correct. The question is why is TT betting more often than T9s right? My answer is because TT blocks a lot of the value betting range IP has on the river that will bet + call a check raise. You can see in the Sim a lot of the 9x or Kx will just check back the river. Where T9s makes for a better check raise since there are still some TX that bets the river. Where TT makes for a better bet for hero so river doesn't go XX with so many KX checking back. You were talking about 99 being in range is the part I disagreed on because I think 99 bets the turn majority of the time as well as BTN's 2 pair hands.
I am concerned with your lead. Not the in position players action. He has to bet if we check. The photo you had up was for the IP decision, if you click back to OOP action, TT is a pure bet on the river where T9 pure checks.
He seemed surprised that TT best river and T9 doesn't. That board is dry from the rainbow standpoint but kind of dangerous when considering how many combos flopped nutted here (all sets and straights are quite invulnerable). So, I think IP can take more passive lines looking to let your weak stuff catch up. So, him having all 3 combos of 999 here is quite important to the grand scheme of things. Your removal is worse with T9s than with TT since both cards interact. So, being that he has all 3 combos of 99, PIO will choose to bet with TT vs T9 here.
Steve Paul This is a stupid question, but you are the same Steven Paul (Ambrose) that won that WPT even correct? I remember the episode, you were in some tropical place right?
I have a high confidence that it is you, but want to be sure.
Yep that's me, it was the 2006 WPT at Atlantis. Long (long!) time ago. When I got married and we decided to have kids I dropped the hyphenated part of my name - it caused endless confusion growing up and figured I'd make it easier on my kids!
That's awesome. Bad Ass Win!!!!! How old were you then? Its crazy that was like 15 years go.
Totally get it with the home life > poker. Single guy, who cares about travel, time, etc.
Anyway, just wanted to confirm if it was you and keep up the good work here.
I'm 37 now so I would have been 22 then I guess...does seem like a long time ago! Was a pretty surreal experience, I flew home the next day, did a bunch of interviews the day after that, then right back to class. No single life though, got married a couple years later to the girl I'd been with since high school, used the WPT winnings to buy a house and invested the rest. Tried a few things since then, but always ended up back in poker. Thanks for the kind words!
I remember watching that win. I think I started playing in 04 or 05 and constantly watched WPT/High Stakes Poker/WSOP on ESPN. Pretty cool stuff
great video Steve! really great format fun to review run it twices hands!
sidenote, reading through the comments checked out your hendon mob, see that your from kitchener! i live in london so not too far, are you mainly playing cash nowadays or do you still play some tournaments now and then?
thanks again!
Glad you liked it. I went to university in Waterloo but other than that have lived in Kingston my whole life. These days I play cash but pretty low volume and I think I've played 1 tournament in the last decade (WSOP main last year)
awesome!
i went to the wsop last year, but mainly just been studying and playing cash since! mix between online and live
You should try and get a student review done yourself. Very beneficial! There are a lot of spots we don't even know we are messing up because we focus so much on the medium and big pots. But its the small pots where we over fold on the flop or over bluff on the flop that make our redlines tank.
did you ask some of the coaches if they would do a review session of your hands?
TRUEPOWER I'm happy to do one - PM me if you're interested
Steve Paul TRUEPOWER Steve does an excellent job on student reviews! I only suggest doing a replayer format to get the most out of it. Preflop is just a small amount of EV exchanged, so I would just play a session and filter for hands that saw the flop and pot is over 6bb+. 70% of the hands played in a session are just winning the blinds, folding, or cbet the flop and win. Cuts out a lot of wasted time from the student review the 6bb+ and saw flop filter.
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