First of all would like to say I really enjoyed this training video as there are not a lot of videos out there focusing on river play in particular where the biggest errors are made, so thank you for making this.
47:00 On this board I am making blunders because when villain polarizes turn I was thinking the A6, A5, 65s hands get counterfeited on the river. Hero blocks some 87s which makes me want to call with this combo.
One thing that stood out the most to me though is even though a pair + FD has some show down value, when the turn gets polarized I expect river to be followed through pretty often. Some of the Ks5s hands while they are drawing to the nut flush I think some of the 2 pair or trip outs are not clean, meaning if you river a K villain could already have a set or aces up. I was thinking a hand like Ts8s for gutter + flush draw would make a better call since the outs are cleaner than making two pair. This is still hard for me to grasp as I am not folding combo draws on the turn with the Ace of spades on the board. If the ace was not a spade I would be more concerned with hands like As2s for someone just playing TP + FD aggressively. What are your thoughts on pair + FD being better than combo draw here? Are we hoping when river bricks villain is just giving up with a hand like Td8d when we hold Ks5s? Just not sure how much weight to put on this SDV.
First off, I agree these spots are very tough! Ks5s has got to be significantly better than Ts8s because while your K out isn't super clean you will still beat some value bets on a 5, and more importantly your flush draw is to the nuts whereas sometimes with Ts8s you river a flush and lose a stack. The showdown value of the 5 isn't huge (as you say it's somewhat rare for river to blank, it goes x/x and you win) but it's a little something that in a big pot is still worth a reasonable amount but I think the combination of those factors is worth more than the gutshot.
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First of all would like to say I really enjoyed this training video as there are not a lot of videos out there focusing on river play in particular where the biggest errors are made, so thank you for making this.
47:00 On this board I am making blunders because when villain polarizes turn I was thinking the A6, A5, 65s hands get counterfeited on the river. Hero blocks some 87s which makes me want to call with this combo.
One thing that stood out the most to me though is even though a pair + FD has some show down value, when the turn gets polarized I expect river to be followed through pretty often. Some of the Ks5s hands while they are drawing to the nut flush I think some of the 2 pair or trip outs are not clean, meaning if you river a K villain could already have a set or aces up. I was thinking a hand like Ts8s for gutter + flush draw would make a better call since the outs are cleaner than making two pair. This is still hard for me to grasp as I am not folding combo draws on the turn with the Ace of spades on the board. If the ace was not a spade I would be more concerned with hands like As2s for someone just playing TP + FD aggressively. What are your thoughts on pair + FD being better than combo draw here? Are we hoping when river bricks villain is just giving up with a hand like Td8d when we hold Ks5s? Just not sure how much weight to put on this SDV.

First off, I agree these spots are very tough! Ks5s has got to be significantly better than Ts8s because while your K out isn't super clean you will still beat some value bets on a 5, and more importantly your flush draw is to the nuts whereas sometimes with Ts8s you river a flush and lose a stack. The showdown value of the 5 isn't huge (as you say it's somewhat rare for river to blank, it goes x/x and you win) but it's a little something that in a big pot is still worth a reasonable amount but I think the combination of those factors is worth more than the gutshot.
I really like this format of presenting a theory concept then thoroughly exploring it in the trainer. Looking forward to the next one.
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