How to Choose Your Turn Betsize (IP)

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How to Choose Your Turn Betsize (IP)

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Steve Paul

POSTED Jul 06, 2023

Steve Paul takes a deep dive on the process of determining your turn bet size in single-raised pots and backs up his findings with the solver to establish some heuristics for this crucial part of the game.

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M S 1 year, 8 months ago

Great video!
Excellent simple framework for developing heuristics, good anticipation of questions and nice practical excercises in GTOW. Just what I need, so please continue this series.

GMjunior 1 year, 7 months ago

Loved the video and would enjoy seeing more. I like seeing the theory coupled with practical examples. Definitely a heuristic I'm going to start adding into my own game

Asdfghjkl1 1 year, 7 months ago

11:58 you allow multiple sizes, is there not a more efficient way of doing this in GTOwiz? as in, can we not allow fewer sizes to make our decision making easier and clearer if we got it "right"?

Steve Paul 1 year, 7 months ago

They do have a 'simplified' set of sims where there's only one available size but I don't particularly like that feature - I want to be able to use different sizes on different boards/turns. One way to practice would be to use pio sims and run subtrees but that's a bit cumbersome and I don't think would make a great video experience.

dangdangee 8 months ago

Hi Steve. Thanks for great video. You said pick a worst value hand and then choose the size accordingly. Unfortunately, it is little bit complicated for me. May I think the size first and then pick a worst value hand? That's usually how I think whem I'm playing.

Steve Paul 8 months ago

Both are reasonable, yes. My only issue with picking a size first is it becomes a bit too easy to let the hand you have influence your choice. For example, we raise button, BB calls.

Flop Js Th 2d
BB x, we cbet 1/3, BB calls.

Turn 8s
If I'm looking at TT I might think pot/overbet looks pretty nice (only 1 straight got there, it's basically a blank!) If I'm looking at KJ I might think b50 looks about right (one of the only OESDs got there, plus there are some offsuit 2pairs now!) Whereas if you think what's the worst hand I want to value bet it gets you thinking about your range. If you want to bet KJ, you better choose a fairly small betsize. If you really just want to bet QQ+ then big is a good choice.

Maybe it's not an issue for you but in my experience lots of people have this 'size to my hand' problem and I think forcing you to think about your range first (what's the worst hand that I want to value bet?) can help a bit with that.

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