Spots That People Don't Study
Posted by Steve Paul
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Great Idea to look into the less studied spots. You explain the solver outputs very well. Definitely learned a couple of valuable things to apply to my game. Thanks for the effort!
Steve Paul Love the video as usual!! The AKo hand @36 gets a drastically different output from Wizard. It has you cbetting range 56% on the flop and on the river it has you donking 26% of range but 0% of the AK combos. I know you switched from Wizard to Pio due to the bet sizing, but could the large discrepancy here be due to the starting ranges? This is a good example of how sensitive solver outputs are.
Glad you liked it! I'm pretty sure I used the simple ranges for the pio sim and training but there are different sizes postflop. When I look up the spot in GTOw 500nl simple I do see AK doing some donking but as you say starting ranges will make a difference especially in spots where EVs run close.
There's a neat video GTOw put out recently (this one I think) where he solves one flop spot with 3 different solvers but same ranges and gets 3 pretty dramatically different strategies. Solvers are only approximating GTO and there will be many strategies that are max exploited for <=x in a given spot.
Steve Paul Ignore me on this one. I accidentally clicked on the Button instead of CO. I see the river donking range now. Tombos does a great job! I watched that video when it was released but it is even better the second time around.
It's good to look at less frequently studied spots like this. The default is to look at the most common spots, but I think there is probably too much focus on BTN vs the blinds. Like you, I play a little too loose in these pots and make mistakes with hands that are slightly too weak for the positions, but would otherwise be ok if it were a BTN vs blinds spot. Been looking at some BB vs EP 3bet pot hands recently and the nittiness is pretty wild.
422r -
Surprised to see this one as a 70% check from the BB. BB has equity advantage and more of the higher pocket pairs. I guess it's to do with the CO having a decent number of overpairs? And can have to up QQ at high frequency.
Yep, I think it's good advice generally to look at the more common spots the most, but if you ignore the less common ones you can make some very large mistakes being much too loose in tighter spots.
422r - I think part of the problem here is that BB has a bunch of very low EV trash that IP never has (along with IP having some of the strong overpairs as you mentioned)
FYI on Pio Trainer you can skip a hand with Ctrl+N. If you forget this shortcut, click "Tools" in top left of Trainer window and it's listed there too.
Thanks good to know!
I think Luke said in his PIO training video that you press "CTRL + N" to go to the next hand. You were asking about how to skip over a hand you were not interested in QQ on like a A96ss board. Let me know if this works or not. I know I use it for node lock, but never done any drilling in PIO yet.
yep this works, matlittle above had a comment about it too
I guess I should have read the other comments. I see it now, right above mine lol
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