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POSTED May 29, 2018

Inspired by a forum post (http://www.runitonce.com/nlhe/how-to-approach-being-flatted-ip-as-pfr-against-good-competition/), Juan Copani aka proggrezive returns from a short break to bring you part 1 of his multi-part series on playing your EP range when OOP.

Part 1 looks into flop betting frequencies for both IP and OOP players using PIO results.

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sauloCosta10 6 years, 10 months ago

Very good video. Although I already have done this type of work myself, I have to appreciate when a coach makes a better than average video. Looking forward for the next ones

martinshev 6 years, 9 months ago

Very good video juan!! waiting for next once..
- Im doing some working whit pio and triying to aplly at given spot simplicitty strategyes that allows to me not going across the whole tree and avoid the idea to play perfectly my mixed strategyes.. It is good to know how much we loose in the over all ev by take diferents aproches... As you said it is good to know in NUMBERS how much we loose or gain!!

martinshev 6 years, 9 months ago

1- if we will loose or resing equity by x the whole range in this givens situations and we can figuered out how much % of the pot we loose by not playing optimal. We will loose ev % of the pot instead of mixing and extract the most value posible. This means that ip must play perfectly mixed against a 100% x range for example? and also this means if ip player can not reach the best optimal acuracy strategy in given situation, it will also be loosing ev bye not playing optimal agains 100% x range!! is that true?

SnowAndFire 6 years, 8 months ago

I am just catching up with this series because I noticed you released the second part today.

One thing I see is that your EP range has a lot of unprofitable junk in it. The second thing I see is that you solved for EPvsIP flat but gave no overbets to either of the players. IP gains his EV in most part by using overbets and applying lots of pressure. Without the overbet strategic option it really does not matter if you are solving deep or medium stack gamesas the IP player is incapable of leveraging the deep stacks by using the proper bet sizes.

I have not gone over this myself but I am willing to bet that if you give the IP player proper overbet strategic options that the OOP player will check more than 73% OTF as well as having a smaller check/raise %.

On another note - I really LOVED your approach in this video and it is probably one of the best RIO videos I have ever seen. The quality of the information and the approach to the spot you were studying was done in such a great, organized manner.

Keep it up!

jdstl 6 years, 8 months ago

Agree with this post in terms of available bet sizings.

Also curious about the main takeaway of why IP's pot share is higher was due to only position. I was under the impression this is due to the polarity/nut advantage IP has over OOP in this spot at a large SPR (more so than simply the fact that IP is in position). When IP can develop a large bet sizing range with his SET> edge and stack bluffs vs OOP's less nutted range, IP's EV pot share should keep increasing.

For instance if we gave IP 2 sizings on all streets, more of a standard 2/3 pot, then a linear over bet sizing across multiple streets, I would bet his pot share and EV both get larger than what we see in this sim.

Juan Copani 6 years, 8 months ago

Hey,

I absolutely agree that being able to overbet allows the IP player more ways of leveraging his entire stack, and because of this denying more equity to the player without position.

I think that even if the solution its pretty reasonable, my goal with this series was more like showing the method rather than give the ultimate solution of the spot.

Thank you so much for your love :) Glad you people liked this format

rosebud 6 years, 8 months ago

Thank you much for this series. Excelent content. If we choose the simple approach and node lock checking full range. What does this do to the size of the CR range? Does it stay at 10% or increase?

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