I'll see what I can do for turn barreling. Seems harder to make a video on it as every board and turn card is more factors compared to the flop. It's also important to first understand flop play before we can move onto turn.
How is gto+ compared to pio?
I can't really say. I'm happy with GTO+. Can't compare as I don't have PIO, only seen it being used. Then there's now PIO2. And there's also JeSolver.
GTO+ for me has what I need. It solves, it allows me to extract data for aggregated reports, and play vs the solution.
There are some features that aren't there. When I email their support (Scylla basicly) he tends to add these features to a future update. For example an export function for hand strength. An import function for nodelocking strategies so it's no longer needed to manually go over every combo (I wanted to reduce all bet frequencies by 50%).
Maybe just a drill video where we take a bunch of hands all the way to the river. I find the drill videos to be really worthwhile.
Why is there such a huge difference in cbetting freq on k high vs q high boards? Are there really that many more queens in opponents rng or that many less in our rng?
Why is there such a huge difference in cbetting freq on k high vs q high boards? Are there really that many more queens in opponents rng or that many less in our rng?
I go over this in my debut video.
But yes, IP caller has a reduced amount of Kx hands compared to other hands.
3:54 I was looking at the suites that are betting on Qc 6d 5h and noticed all the sets and over pairs that do bet this have a higher frequency of betting if they also match the suites of the boards, so over pairs with a spade AsAx and KsKx are betting less often. Also 6c6h is going to be betting more often than 6s6h. If people were not using an RNG I would just apply this "heuristic" to betting with you double block back door flush draws and check when you only single block them. Even this might be too high of a frequency still. Might be good for live poker though where you don't have an RNG unless you use your watch or something.
20:15
Pocket pairs that have a flush draw want to bet more often
I think this is the opposite on this Ks6c5c board. 8c8x is checking more often than without a club because it can easily check call for higher EV and not get blown off it's equity. The smaller size is used more often with a club, but combining the bigger and smaller size you can see the checking frequency is higher for the combos with a club. I think the 8h8d hands that don't block any bdfd are using the larger flop sizing to increase FE and be more one and done, where 8c8s can bet small high frequency and call a raise and potentially turn itself into a bluff if it bricks but back door spades come in.
27:30 with KTo (no club) you asked in the video why KT no club is betting more frequency than KxTc. I think this is because the callers range IP is going to contain a ton of suited hands, so on AJ3ccc board double blocking KJs J10s and using a larger cbet size increases the fold equity with these combos, where KxTc can easily check call, but doesn't want to build a huge pot with the 3rd nut flush draw if four to a flush does come. These hands have a certain value amount they want to put in the pot.
The last hand you went to drill on the J52ssd. With KcKh the suites that unblock the back doors are betting less because on dynamic two tone boards, when turn or river complete draws it favors the IP range. KcKh doesn't want to build a big pot OOP on these dynamic boards. Also have to consider when you turn a set with KcKh and turn is Ks... Are you happy with top set when flush completes? Then you consider the UTG range is not pure opening 55-22 so on a high SPR pot, where you only have roughly 4.5 combos of sets instead of 9, the over pair advantage is not a big consideration for putting a lot of money into the pot.
Thank you for the video, it's kinda more advance for the beginner like me, but i think i get the whole idea, and also i am new in the GTO+ app. so just an idea, maybe could you maybe make a simple video explanation how to use GTO+, how we choose the right size, and how to know the basic feature for the GTO+ in the future :)
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Very good video. You really made understanding why we pick the hands we cbet easy.
Would be great to see a similar styled full video on turn barreling. Definitely would love to see a full video doing drills.
How is gto+ compared to pio?
Thanks.
I'll see what I can do for turn barreling. Seems harder to make a video on it as every board and turn card is more factors compared to the flop. It's also important to first understand flop play before we can move onto turn.
I can't really say. I'm happy with GTO+. Can't compare as I don't have PIO, only seen it being used. Then there's now PIO2. And there's also JeSolver.
GTO+ for me has what I need. It solves, it allows me to extract data for aggregated reports, and play vs the solution.
There are some features that aren't there. When I email their support (Scylla basicly) he tends to add these features to a future update. For example an export function for hand strength. An import function for nodelocking strategies so it's no longer needed to manually go over every combo (I wanted to reduce all bet frequencies by 50%).
Maybe just a drill video where we take a bunch of hands all the way to the river. I find the drill videos to be really worthwhile.
Why is there such a huge difference in cbetting freq on k high vs q high boards? Are there really that many more queens in opponents rng or that many less in our rng?
I go over this in my debut video.
But yes, IP caller has a reduced amount of Kx hands compared to other hands.
3:54 I was looking at the suites that are betting on Qc 6d 5h and noticed all the sets and over pairs that do bet this have a higher frequency of betting if they also match the suites of the boards, so over pairs with a spade AsAx and KsKx are betting less often. Also 6c6h is going to be betting more often than 6s6h. If people were not using an RNG I would just apply this "heuristic" to betting with you double block back door flush draws and check when you only single block them. Even this might be too high of a frequency still. Might be good for live poker though where you don't have an RNG unless you use your watch or something.
20:15
I think this is the opposite on this Ks6c5c board. 8c8x is checking more often than without a club because it can easily check call for higher EV and not get blown off it's equity. The smaller size is used more often with a club, but combining the bigger and smaller size you can see the checking frequency is higher for the combos with a club. I think the 8h8d hands that don't block any bdfd are using the larger flop sizing to increase FE and be more one and done, where 8c8s can bet small high frequency and call a raise and potentially turn itself into a bluff if it bricks but back door spades come in.
27:30 with KTo (no club) you asked in the video why KT no club is betting more frequency than KxTc. I think this is because the callers range IP is going to contain a ton of suited hands, so on AJ3ccc board double blocking KJs J10s and using a larger cbet size increases the fold equity with these combos, where KxTc can easily check call, but doesn't want to build a huge pot with the 3rd nut flush draw if four to a flush does come. These hands have a certain value amount they want to put in the pot.
The last hand you went to drill on the J52ssd. With KcKh the suites that unblock the back doors are betting less because on dynamic two tone boards, when turn or river complete draws it favors the IP range. KcKh doesn't want to build a big pot OOP on these dynamic boards. Also have to consider when you turn a set with KcKh and turn is Ks... Are you happy with top set when flush completes? Then you consider the UTG range is not pure opening 55-22 so on a high SPR pot, where you only have roughly 4.5 combos of sets instead of 9, the over pair advantage is not a big consideration for putting a lot of money into the pot.
Thank you for the video, it's kinda more advance for the beginner like me, but i think i get the whole idea, and also i am new in the GTO+ app. so just an idea, maybe could you maybe make a simple video explanation how to use GTO+, how we choose the right size, and how to know the basic feature for the GTO+ in the future :)
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