30:50 - on the Q63ss 8o Qo on the river you say that you can't bluff this combo vs the check
which hands are you going to bluff there?
I think it's a very close spot actually
I mean we probably have some KThh and KJhh sometimes (potentially also some KJo or KTo with a club, but I guess we'll just bluff them OTT at a very high freq)
K7cc will probably be a bit better as well, but we are talking about very low number of combos anyway
we rarely get any worse that that, you have some Qx and potentially AA/KK to play this way, we get to shove river with 8xcc or A8hh I would assume
Kc and 9c are not great blockers because we block some of the flopped offsuit bluffs, but than also Kh or J/Th won't be great
and I actually think flush draws will be aggressive OTT alot OOP on 1 SPR so blocking the missed flush drews is not a big deal
"Kc and 9c are not great blockers because we block some of the flopped offsuit bluffs, but than also Kh or J/Th won't be great"
This is a good point here, but the problem is that all of our river unpaired hands will have some interaction like this. We only float the flop with a backdoor. I agree that our range is tight enough by the river that we should consider bluffing some missed FD's. But his cbet flop/give up hands are going to have one club (more often than they have two heart because one club hands are offsuit), so I want to bluff my non-club hands the most.
''but the problem is that all of our river unpaired hands will have some interaction like this'' - yeah that's what I meant
''But his cbet flop/give up hands are going to have one club (more often than they have two heart because one club hands are offsuit), so I want to bluff my non-club hands the most'' - definitely agree if arrived at the river this way, just think it's only like 2/3 combos so it won't be enough
also we might bluff some of them OTT? (also some of the KcJo type of hands I assume)
how often do you think we should bet-call turn with a combo drew such as JT T9 J9 cc hands? I would guess high freq and than we really end up without many bluffing combos OTR, that's why I consider bluffing this K9
found it an interesting river spot
thanks for putting the energy
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30:50 - on the Q63ss 8o Qo on the river you say that you can't bluff this combo vs the check
which hands are you going to bluff there?
I think it's a very close spot actually
I mean we probably have some KThh and KJhh sometimes (potentially also some KJo or KTo with a club, but I guess we'll just bluff them OTT at a very high freq)
K7cc will probably be a bit better as well, but we are talking about very low number of combos anyway
we rarely get any worse that that, you have some Qx and potentially AA/KK to play this way, we get to shove river with 8xcc or A8hh I would assume
Kc and 9c are not great blockers because we block some of the flopped offsuit bluffs, but than also Kh or J/Th won't be great
and I actually think flush draws will be aggressive OTT alot OOP on 1 SPR so blocking the missed flush drews is not a big deal
what do you think?
Thanks for the kind words pollos!
"Kc and 9c are not great blockers because we block some of the flopped offsuit bluffs, but than also Kh or J/Th won't be great"
This is a good point here, but the problem is that all of our river unpaired hands will have some interaction like this. We only float the flop with a backdoor. I agree that our range is tight enough by the river that we should consider bluffing some missed FD's. But his cbet flop/give up hands are going to have one club (more often than they have two heart because one club hands are offsuit), so I want to bluff my non-club hands the most.
Seth Davies
Thanks for the reply (:
''but the problem is that all of our river unpaired hands will have some interaction like this'' - yeah that's what I meant
''But his cbet flop/give up hands are going to have one club (more often than they have two heart because one club hands are offsuit), so I want to bluff my non-club hands the most'' - definitely agree if arrived at the river this way, just think it's only like 2/3 combos so it won't be enough
also we might bluff some of them OTT? (also some of the KcJo type of hands I assume)
how often do you think we should bet-call turn with a combo drew such as JT T9 J9 cc hands? I would guess high freq and than we really end up without many bluffing combos OTR, that's why I consider bluffing this K9
found it an interesting river spot
thanks for putting the energy
When I see a new Seth Davies vid , my day is better.
Thanks boss.
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