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MTT Hands of Note (part 2)

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Paul Senter

POSTED Oct 13, 2013

Paul continues his look at a few of the stickier spots he has run across recently in his MTT play.

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ARealHero 11 years, 5 months ago

loved this series my friend, I especially enjoy you not being afraid to show hands where you made mistakes but maybe an opponent made a good play against you such as in this vid when he had 1010. Cheers! 

flippetyflop 11 years, 5 months ago

Regarding the AJhh hand you mention the QQ3dd board doesn't hit his range too hard, but on the basis that villain has 3bet our EP open, doesn't almost all of his flop range consist of hands that we're losing to? What sort of hands would villain 3bet preflop in this spot that we do well against with AJ on this flop?


Amit Patel 11 years, 5 months ago

I'm also interested in the AJhh hand. Like flippety said, on this flop were only ahead of his light 3bet range but check/folding the flop does feel weak, I think I would be more inclined to continue if the flop had a heart on it to give us more backdoors. 

The turn is interesting as I don't think you have much Kx that calls the flop but its hard for him to get called by much worse. Seems like a protection shove to fold out flush draws which likely have overs or a straight draw to go with it. In this video you say that you have a bunch of Khigh flush draws on the turn, does that mean you're peeling KJs KTs to his 3bet?

Patrick Brooks 11 years, 5 months ago

Think the 4bet jam with KJ off is a really horrible spot as hes going to 3 bet calling really wide and were not even near the top of our opening range and doubt were ever going to get him to fold better, plus do you think alot of the hands he will have in his 3bet bluff range hes going to flat alot of them? then at the same time I feel were just getting exploited alot  by this 3bet aswell? so is 4bet shoving just the best play in a vacuum?


luckysteve7 11 years, 4 months ago

In the AJ of hearts hand, Aj is at the bottom of your perceived range on that flop. You'll have enough slow played over pairs, aq kq qj combos that you don't need to be worried about being exploited on this flop.  Unless you are expecting villian to be hyper exploiting your ep open by 3betting the bu there, I don't see how you can put him on a wide enough range when he c-bets the flop to even consider calling. 

That said if you are opening incredibly wide on this table in ep and expect villian to be very good and able to realize it, the flop and turn all seem very well played.  But if this is your read on him (that he's 3betting you with a really wide range) I think you are better off 4bet inducing pre.  All of villain's trash won't be able to realize their equity while also stopping him from playing his positional advantage.  

vanway 11 years, 3 months ago

I really don't get the AJ hand... So putting him on a range of 22-TT, AQs+, KTs- KJs, AQo+, KJo, we will only win 22% of the times, so what's the point in calling his push? 

Paul Senter 11 years, 2 months ago

Hi guys,

Thanks arealhero,

flippertyflop/vanway/amit/luckysteve,

I think his actual inducing range Vs my ep open is likely to be AQs+/TT+ with maybe smaller pairs intending on inducing a light 4b, so to balance this I think he'll also be 3bing some suited connectors too.

I also think when he overbet jams the turn we can take boats and queens out of his range as he'd want to get check shuved on with these as by jamming he only narrows my range, so the question is what is he left with?  I don't think jamming a king makes that much sense, so we're left with mid pairs (and maybe AA) and draws, which we have the nut non-pair against.  (also I don't think the turn jam with mid pairs here is completely standard).

thebigdog,

Im not so sure he's going to be '3b calling really wide' vs my 27x stack mp. I'm actually pretty surprised he 3b called with ATo as I think AJs is dubious as a standard.  Possibly it makes more sense when I don't 4b induce as he can expect more small pairs/broadways than hands he dominates.. Although ATo has only 55% equ vs 22-77/All broadways except offsuit Tx.

I also disagree he's not going to fold better, as all Ax and KQ will fold to this jam (which I expect him to be 3bing a decent %), so against an aggressive reg I think jamming is the best way to go here.

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