Besides the QJ, 99, and AQ hand I thought this video was pretty bad. Sure these hands were interesting but instructional value wise were very small.
It was a good example of just clicking buttons without any thought process other than his value range is small and "I dont think he has it" so i click he clicks then i click and he folds.
Are you ever worried people are going to start c/r'ing wider for value against you knowing they can so reliably count on you going to click-back war with them? :)
On the AdQd hand I think you are vastly overrating how well your hand performs in that spot. In the actual hand you have 34% against their hands which makes getting it in marginally profitable, but when one of them shows up with a set (which is probably fairly often given the action and starting stacks being close to 200bbs) your equity plummets to 23%. You also mention it is a soft field which is an argument *against* not *for* taking a high variance spot like this.
Enjoyed the vid. Would like to see hands where you don't win. I'm sure you have had some similar spots like in this video but where its gone badly for you.
Hey Paul, love your vids. a couple hands, at river, were we check, becuase if we raise and get jammed we have to fold, But, we check riv in couple hands, villian makes uber small bet, on both hands we ends up shoving, as we see this as some sort of weakness and not doing this with the top of his ranges with hands that have us crushed, my question is, if this is his line, arent we exploitable in this spot, if he is aware my taking his line he willenduce us to come over the top? so taking this line is exploitable?Also any regs playing at your levels, may now have a read on you now?
plac, ye i guess so, but it would only be to still kind of be able to turn their hands into bluffs vs my val range, and although i click it back a lot here they are just a few random hands and im not as addicted to the click back as it may seem =). Regarding the aqs hand, ye thats worst case, but the range ppl can show up with on .fr my main aim is to get as much money in there.
smnplk, the penultimate hand is just an assumption i made about what the utg+1 3ber would do with his monsters in that seat (and i expect jam or flat depending on table/image) and the final hand was more to demonstrate what people are capable of and that there is more fold equity in the game than before.
amit, ye apologies that this looked like an attempted highlight reel.. i just saved about 30 random hands and it just so happened these were mostly good 1s =).
Geddsys, its a good point that people can look at my logic and take it a level higher and exploit me that way, but by trying to exploit me by inducing check raises to jam over the top of my polarized range will probably take them further away from optimal poker, because when we get to the river oop and i decide to check i still have a good portion of c/c c/f regardless of betsize, so its not like im turning that much of my range into thin vb-checkraises vs small 'vbs'.
Nice Vid. I like the deeper analysis of particular hands - Only thing is I'd be careful to judge too much by what your range would be in their spots rather than what their range is based on their play/play-style.
Hey Paul, when someone raises you oop, you don't believe them, and you decide to do something about it, you can kind of choose between the click back or float. In this video you show a lot of click back wars. Do you employ the float as well, or do you prefer a raising strategy? Also, are you using that click back for value much?
Regarding the JQo hand, even if u think he only betcalls qq-kk,jq, jk, at, 22 you have exactly 50% equity against that. If you don't jam here you are losing tons of value from hands that he shouldn't call but still does sometimes.
Also in your "clickitback" hands (i only watched k2/aq so far) you don't seem to consider alot of alternative lines. I think in both hands a bluffcall to the chraise are very valid less variance options which will win the pots often enough (we can also bluffraise on later streets fwiw). As you correctly point out they have more bluffs than valuecombos. You also kinda give away the power of position and can maybe get even more value from his bluffs taking more passive lines ip otf.
lucky_kashkow, that's a very good point. Although even if my assumptions about the villain are a bit too generous it may still be useful to hear the sort of range I feel makes sense in certain spots.
DirtyD, I lean slightly towards the click back approach (when im the aggressor) in shorter stack situations but there are certainly times a float keeps our range wider and harder to play against. Also I think the click-back approach can be effective on dry boards if we want to make our range polarized against a thinking villain that could otherwise give up (or force him to jam if he wants to continue).
HowIMetUrriver, That's a good point, AJ/T9 could also call putting me on an overplayed JT for example. I'm not sure I agree with the bluffcall being less variance if we intend on bluff raising later in the hand, but I see your point when the villain is somewhat likely to give up if our read is right.
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Love these type of vids.
"I will spew."
Haha well played.
Besides the QJ, 99, and AQ hand I thought this video was pretty bad. Sure these hands were interesting but instructional value wise were very small.
It was a good example of just clicking buttons without any thought process other than his value range is small and "I dont think he has it" so i click he clicks then i click and he folds.
Are you ever worried people are going to start c/r'ing wider for value against you knowing they can so reliably count on you going to click-back war with them? :)
On the AdQd hand I think you are vastly overrating how well your hand performs in that spot. In the actual hand you have 34% against their hands which makes getting it in marginally profitable, but when one of them shows up with a set (which is probably fairly often given the action and starting stacks being close to 200bbs) your equity plummets to 23%. You also mention it is a soft field which is an argument *against* not *for* taking a high variance spot like this.
getting it here with 34% is not marginallly profitable with all the dead money. its rather a big $ print.
I don't know if I can ever understand last 2 hands :(
Enjoyed the vid. Would like to see hands where you don't win. I'm sure you have had some similar spots like in this video but where its gone badly for you.
Hey Paul, love your vids. a couple hands, at river, were we check, becuase if we raise and get jammed we have to fold, But, we check riv in couple hands, villian makes uber small bet, on both hands we ends up shoving, as we see this as some sort of weakness and not doing this with the top of his ranges with hands that have us crushed, my question is, if this is his line, arent we exploitable in this spot, if he is aware my taking his line he willenduce us to come over the top? so taking this line is exploitable?Also any regs playing at your levels, may now have a read on you now?
Hi guys, thanks for the comments,
Dennis, sorry you didnt like it.
plac, ye i guess so, but it would only be to still kind of be able to turn their hands into bluffs vs my val range, and although i click it back a lot here they are just a few random hands and im not as addicted to the click back as it may seem =). Regarding the aqs hand, ye thats worst case, but the range ppl can show up with on .fr my main aim is to get as much money in there.
smnplk, the penultimate hand is just an assumption i made about what the utg+1 3ber would do with his monsters in that seat (and i expect jam or flat depending on table/image) and the final hand was more to demonstrate what people are capable of and that there is more fold equity in the game than before.
amit, ye apologies that this looked like an attempted highlight reel.. i just saved about 30 random hands and it just so happened these were mostly good 1s =).
Geddsys, its a good point that people can look at my logic and take it a level higher and exploit me that way, but by trying to exploit me by inducing check raises to jam over the top of my polarized range will probably take them further away from optimal poker, because when we get to the river oop and i decide to check i still have a good portion of c/c c/f regardless of betsize, so its not like im turning that much of my range into thin vb-checkraises vs small 'vbs'.
makes sense :) looking forward to the next installment .
Nice Vid. I like the deeper analysis of particular hands - Only thing is I'd be careful to judge too much by what your range would be in their spots rather than what their range is based on their play/play-style.
Hey Paul, when someone raises you oop, you don't believe them, and you decide to do something about it, you can kind of choose between the click back or float. In this video you show a lot of click back wars. Do you employ the float as well, or do you prefer a raising strategy? Also, are you using that click back for value much?
Regarding the JQo hand, even if u think he only betcalls qq-kk,jq, jk, at, 22 you have exactly 50% equity against that. If you don't jam here you are losing tons of value from hands that he shouldn't call but still does sometimes.
Also in your "clickitback" hands (i only watched k2/aq so far) you don't seem to consider alot of alternative lines. I think in both hands a bluffcall to the chraise are very valid less variance options which will win the pots often enough (we can also bluffraise on later streets fwiw). As you correctly point out they have more bluffs than valuecombos. You also kinda give away the power of position and can maybe get even more value from his bluffs taking more passive lines ip otf.
Hi guys,
lucky_kashkow, that's a very good point. Although even if my assumptions about the villain are a bit too generous it may still be useful to hear the sort of range I feel makes sense in certain spots.
DirtyD, I lean slightly towards the click back approach (when im the aggressor) in shorter stack situations but there are certainly times a float keeps our range wider and harder to play against. Also I think the click-back approach can be effective on dry boards if we want to make our range polarized against a thinking villain that could otherwise give up (or force him to jam if he wants to continue).
HowIMetUrriver, That's a good point, AJ/T9 could also call putting me on an overplayed JT for example. I'm not sure I agree with the bluffcall being less variance if we intend on bluff raising later in the hand, but I see your point when the villain is somewhat likely to give up if our read is right.
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