1:30 K9ss i'm surprised you don't just shove flop, it's kind of a gross spot on blank turns to have him pile >pot (I assume we have to just gii in that scenario?). pretty sure pio would xrai w/this 100% or close to 100% otf (I could run sim but really unsure what ranges to input esp. for sauce).
10:35 A6hh, you normally cbet these textures large w/lowish frequency, you just decide to mix it up here or is it something in response to Sauce's play?
1:30 - I think with any fd that would get blown off its equity by aggression I'd be taking this approach. With K9ss I was pretty confident that I'd have a good call against turn aggression, not really expecting to run into hands like KQ. I kinda alluded to this in the video but I didn't expect a shove to generate any successful folds when I'm this strong.
10:35 - With shallower SPR and a higher x/r frequency from Sauce, I wasn't intending to use any big cbet strategies. It's mostly important when there's a lot of money behind that I can't get in without picking large sizes myself. In this scenario it's less important because all the money will go in quite naturally if we both have a big hand.
great video,
on table 1 at 11:15 what bluffs would you choose in his side when the board runs out with four flush cards? For me possible bluffs are open enders but all of them got by the river, but their showdown value is very low. Do u think players are bluffing enough in this spot?
20:00, table 1, is the turn ace reason why you are picking over bet sizing, since it hits check back range so frequently that you bet on the turn very rarely if so, how do you play other hands with one spade. Do you bet all of them, or check call with some?
11:15 - Mostly 8x combos as you suggested, they probably have no equity in this pot because if we check he will bluff correctly with any weaker hands. I'm not entirely sure if average regs will bluff enough but the population as a whole includes players like this who aren't bluffing so predictably on the turn.
20 - Yeah I'm trying to size for hands that can beat Ax more obviously, since those are the ones I'd be leading here. I'm mostly taking this line with combo draws / good blockers for bluffs and a bunch of more showdownable hands with spades (roughly Qhigh+ I'd guess) will go into my check range.
Hey! Through these videos I saw you pretty much always check bottom pairs and almost always check mid pairs on the flop when on the button. I have seen Pio at many spots having mixed strategies IP with mid and bottom pairs, and it always bets some percentage of them. This percentage goes from 0% to 70%, but in most cases from 20% to 30% of the time cbets, usually depending on the height of the card and the texture of the table. You don't bet them because it would be difficult for your strategy to implement or is there another reason? Do you use a randomizer when you play?
This is something I've been working on more recently in my game as I start to understand how I can mix these hands into my cbet range without totally breaking down my overall strategy. I'm probably utilizing a lower frequency than pio recommends, but not literally 0%
I think it's important for practical reasons that I avoid trying to mimic the entire solver based strategy. Rather, I try to incorporate as much of the EV gain as I can into a strategy that makes sense against the population.
Hey Kevin
6:30 with J3 would you also db here with Tx and flushes? How thin can you db for value, like A8+?
17:30 why do you raise T4o vs a limp?
19:30 T4o would you have an overbetting range ott here? Like QJ+?
23:50 Q9o on T8K this is more of a general question, but how do you decided which draws you want to bet otf and at what frequency? Otf here i would usually check back AQ, AJ and 67 with no fd. But I think I bet all the other draws except for a pair with a fd. Should I change that?
thanks :)
6:30 - I'm probably using the Tc somewhat often, but more Jx than Tx. I'd probably never bet weaker than A9 or AT for this sizing on turns, it's not really a strategy designed for my 1 pair hands and I can easily get value on rivers with my medium aces.
17:30 - I like to use a polar preflop strategy here to keep my checking range fairly solid and better at dealing with postflop aggression
19:30 - By default I only use this size, since villain's range improves fairly often and includes all nut combos.
23:50 - I'm more likely to bluff when I block suits on the board, or when my sd value is weaker in general. Your strategy sounds fine as a baseline and I suspect I was doing more checking of these marginal draws simply because Sauce had a pretty high x/r frequency.
great vid. as always haha
at 7:38, what do you think he reps on qt6jt with ur 96? dont u have enuf AK/Tx for him not to be able to vbet qx no kicker for this size? It seems thin to me but i been playing a lotta 6max lol so cud be off.
at 16:48, with AT on q427, u fold to turn probe?
at 25min with jj on j42Ksss, why is Ks scarecard for checking range? u both dont have many flushes and u do have AK. he has decent amt of Kx but not sure why this scary.
7:38 - I think making this bet with Qx would be a mistake, but I did mostly expect him to have hands like that as well as straights for value.
16:48 - Hmm yea this is a mistake against his sizing, I must have had a bad feeling :D
25 - Maybe I wasn't clear but I meant it probably looks like a scare card to him, so my bet will generate a lot of unintended folds. I like my play as a bluff vs fish and it would be fine with AK to charge fds but I don't like my choice with such a strong hand. I think a large bet and a check are both better options.
yes 7:38 seems a runout where you would have much more nutted hands, what would you bluff raise there Kevin?
9 blocks most amount of his straights and since his bluffs will be mostly K-highs bluffraising our K-high, A-high seems ineffective.
Guess you would have A9 but besides that 96 seems weakest 9x you come to the river with and I guess you can bluffraise wider than just A9 considering you would have some AK, K9, Tx, boats.
Yeah actually, I think I agree the best play here is to raise 96. I'd rate it higher than A9 even, since it blocks value combos and we don't have good information on whether or not he would bluff with an ace in his hand. I think weak/recreational players will respect this raise as well, given the somewhat obvious strength I can show.
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1:30 K9ss i'm surprised you don't just shove flop, it's kind of a gross spot on blank turns to have him pile >pot (I assume we have to just gii in that scenario?). pretty sure pio would xrai w/this 100% or close to 100% otf (I could run sim but really unsure what ranges to input esp. for sauce).
10:35 A6hh, you normally cbet these textures large w/lowish frequency, you just decide to mix it up here or is it something in response to Sauce's play?
Thanks!! great series!
1:30 - I think with any fd that would get blown off its equity by aggression I'd be taking this approach. With K9ss I was pretty confident that I'd have a good call against turn aggression, not really expecting to run into hands like KQ. I kinda alluded to this in the video but I didn't expect a shove to generate any successful folds when I'm this strong.
10:35 - With shallower SPR and a higher x/r frequency from Sauce, I wasn't intending to use any big cbet strategies. It's mostly important when there's a lot of money behind that I can't get in without picking large sizes myself. In this scenario it's less important because all the money will go in quite naturally if we both have a big hand.
cool that all makes sense, thanks for your continued responses in these vids
great video,
on table 1 at 11:15 what bluffs would you choose in his side when the board runs out with four flush cards? For me possible bluffs are open enders but all of them got by the river, but their showdown value is very low. Do u think players are bluffing enough in this spot?
20:00, table 1, is the turn ace reason why you are picking over bet sizing, since it hits check back range so frequently that you bet on the turn very rarely if so, how do you play other hands with one spade. Do you bet all of them, or check call with some?
11:15 - Mostly 8x combos as you suggested, they probably have no equity in this pot because if we check he will bluff correctly with any weaker hands. I'm not entirely sure if average regs will bluff enough but the population as a whole includes players like this who aren't bluffing so predictably on the turn.
20 - Yeah I'm trying to size for hands that can beat Ax more obviously, since those are the ones I'd be leading here. I'm mostly taking this line with combo draws / good blockers for bluffs and a bunch of more showdownable hands with spades (roughly Qhigh+ I'd guess) will go into my check range.
lol @11.15 showing AQo at showdown and tagging him as a fish :D
You must have been thinking it too
Hey! Through these videos I saw you pretty much always check bottom pairs and almost always check mid pairs on the flop when on the button. I have seen Pio at many spots having mixed strategies IP with mid and bottom pairs, and it always bets some percentage of them. This percentage goes from 0% to 70%, but in most cases from 20% to 30% of the time cbets, usually depending on the height of the card and the texture of the table. You don't bet them because it would be difficult for your strategy to implement or is there another reason? Do you use a randomizer when you play?
Thank you for these series!
I asked about this (or the inverse of this) in a prior video where I noticed Krab bet a middle or bottom pair.
IIRC he responded saying he's been selecting a some combos to do this with based on some solver work he'd been doing.
So the combos he has selected to be for mid/bottom pair probably just didn't appear in this video.
This is something I've been working on more recently in my game as I start to understand how I can mix these hands into my cbet range without totally breaking down my overall strategy. I'm probably utilizing a lower frequency than pio recommends, but not literally 0%
I think it's important for practical reasons that I avoid trying to mimic the entire solver based strategy. Rather, I try to incorporate as much of the EV gain as I can into a strategy that makes sense against the population.
Great series :)
Hey Kevin
6:30 with J3 would you also db here with Tx and flushes? How thin can you db for value, like A8+?
17:30 why do you raise T4o vs a limp?
19:30 T4o would you have an overbetting range ott here? Like QJ+?
23:50 Q9o on T8K this is more of a general question, but how do you decided which draws you want to bet otf and at what frequency? Otf here i would usually check back AQ, AJ and 67 with no fd. But I think I bet all the other draws except for a pair with a fd. Should I change that?
thanks :)
6:30 - I'm probably using the Tc somewhat often, but more Jx than Tx. I'd probably never bet weaker than A9 or AT for this sizing on turns, it's not really a strategy designed for my 1 pair hands and I can easily get value on rivers with my medium aces.
17:30 - I like to use a polar preflop strategy here to keep my checking range fairly solid and better at dealing with postflop aggression
19:30 - By default I only use this size, since villain's range improves fairly often and includes all nut combos.
23:50 - I'm more likely to bluff when I block suits on the board, or when my sd value is weaker in general. Your strategy sounds fine as a baseline and I suspect I was doing more checking of these marginal draws simply because Sauce had a pretty high x/r frequency.
great vid. as always haha
at 7:38, what do you think he reps on qt6jt with ur 96? dont u have enuf AK/Tx for him not to be able to vbet qx no kicker for this size? It seems thin to me but i been playing a lotta 6max lol so cud be off.
at 16:48, with AT on q427, u fold to turn probe?
at 25min with jj on j42Ksss, why is Ks scarecard for checking range? u both dont have many flushes and u do have AK. he has decent amt of Kx but not sure why this scary.
7:38 - I think making this bet with Qx would be a mistake, but I did mostly expect him to have hands like that as well as straights for value.
16:48 - Hmm yea this is a mistake against his sizing, I must have had a bad feeling :D
25 - Maybe I wasn't clear but I meant it probably looks like a scare card to him, so my bet will generate a lot of unintended folds. I like my play as a bluff vs fish and it would be fine with AK to charge fds but I don't like my choice with such a strong hand. I think a large bet and a check are both better options.
yes 7:38 seems a runout where you would have much more nutted hands, what would you bluff raise there Kevin?
9 blocks most amount of his straights and since his bluffs will be mostly K-highs bluffraising our K-high, A-high seems ineffective.
Guess you would have A9 but besides that 96 seems weakest 9x you come to the river with and I guess you can bluffraise wider than just A9 considering you would have some AK, K9, Tx, boats.
Yeah actually, I think I agree the best play here is to raise 96. I'd rate it higher than A9 even, since it blocks value combos and we don't have good information on whether or not he would bluff with an ace in his hand. I think weak/recreational players will respect this raise as well, given the somewhat obvious strength I can show.
grats on score Kevin.
Thanks!
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