$500 Zoom: A Focus on Exploits
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Great content !
Perfect video. It is very good to see what Elite Players like you think about exploit during game play. I appreciate these contents very much.
18:39 JJ@SB. I agree there is a flop donk frequency in GTO perspective. But I thought people will continue to bet much more frequently than GTO (they might even bet their whole range) when OOP checks. Then it will become very good to check our whole range; we don't have to build the pot ourselves when our opponent are inclined to bet. What do you think about this exploit?
Hey Sayaha im glad you liked the video!
About your question, yes its true that if IP bets too much vs check then the proper play is to check and let them. However I dont expect most regs at 500z to cbet too much on these low connected boards. So until that changes I would play the same way. If you can have solid reads on your opponents and be confident thst they are betting too much, then I like the check raise option the most.
Thank you for the reply. I understood.
I'm really looking forward to watch next videos.
Nice video, thanks. Look forward to the hand review
Love to see the exploitative content from top pros!
@10:30, You open QJcc from HJ and face a 4x 3b from CO. Are you playing 4bet or fold in this spot? What is the threshold for a 4bet or fold strat in your opinion?
Im happy the liked this content Doblou07 <3
Thats a good question...so good that I dont have an immediatelly adequate answer. Considering that a 3x 3bet from a linear range in those positions already forces OOP to play few calls and a lot of 4bets I wouldn't really be shocked if we should in fact play 4bet or fold vs 4x. Preflop ranges are extremely sensitive to bet sizing.
If I were to play 4bet or fold, I would imagine QJs wouldn't be part of it very often if ever, since it doesnt have great blockers. The range would probably resemble a cold 4bet range, which is usually something like AT/Js+, KT/Js+, TT+, AK. An ace or king blocker is very revelant in order to face less 5bet shoves.
sauloCosta10 I'd like to explore preflop GTO ranges and how 3bet or 4bet sizes affect responses. GTO wiz doesn't have multiple sizes so I cannot use that, do you have any other tool in mind that will help me out.
I know Zenith ranges include a lot of o sizes so maybe I should start there?
HeavyMask you can run your own sims. I use simple preflop holdem, great software
Great content. Thank you.
Great video sauloCosta10 at 18:30 do you think villain is value betting worse? What bluffs do you think take this line? Was 3BP pre. cbet 1/3 - barrel 1/3 (call 3x raise) - donk all in half pot. I'm personally not finding folds here, but I wanna puke vs this line.
I guess Tx will be the region where people will draw bluffs from. It indeed looks disgusting tbf...iirc solver was mostly folding my combo to shove. Having a spade here matters more than hand strength
Look forward to Part 2 with Pio analysis.
40:45 not sure if @demondoink saw this video or not. But would be interested to hear the convo between you two on this hand where he called 87c.
basically it's just about blockers and un blockers in this spot. i have a pure bluff catcher, but it still beats all of his air. imo his bluffing range in this spot mostly consists of Ax (hands such as AJ/ATo that low freq 3bet pre, AJ/ATs that high freq 3bet pre, A5/A4s that mix and then he should actually have some hands such as A5o in the bb 3bet range too). so imo Saulo's bluffing range mostly consists of Ax, and thus i would prefer to unblock this range when selecting my bluff catchers. my range is also pretty weak here, mostly 7x, weaker Qx and then some hands like JJ/TT/88/66 etc. mid pocket pairs tend to make worse bluff catchers as they don't block board pairs and thus can instead block the bluffing range (just think he never bluffs with A7 but will bluff AT).
so the 7x blocker is never getting bluffed, and blocks his low freq 77 combos. the 8x also shouldn't really ever feature in his bluffing range as A8s/A8o don't 3bet pre, and a hand like T8s would just bet the turn in some way (even though T should be high freq x i'm almost certain it's not range x as the bb has plenty 9x here).
so i figured my hand blocked a little value, but more importantly unblocked his bluffs. Kx is discounted because KJ/KT would favour betting on the turn as they can't x call and they have good blockers to my 9x. i dunno if he is range cbetting here, but if he isn't then AK will be discounted too (especially the off suit combos, which make up the bulk of the AK combos).
so basically; weak range for IP>have to bluff catch some of these combos>select the ones with the best unblockers to OOP's bluffing range.
hopefully that explains it. and if you call TT here and snap fold 87, then you are overvaluing your absolute hand strength instead of blockers (which is much more important when you are bluff catching).
Great break down Demondoink does all of this rush through your head in real time? I have a 15 second time bank LOL
RunItTw1ce well i guess i have studied a lot of these kinda river spots so i already have a decent understanding of how i am going to construct my river calling range. so these thoughts will come in to my mind but i already know roughly what combos i am going to be giving preference to when calling- those with good un blockers to my opponents bluffing range.
if you haven't studied this and are trying to think in game through all of these things then yeah you will just time out haha. so that is why study is key :D
Thanks demondoink. Hire this man
Enjoyed the video, there were lots of very interesting hands so I agree that a solver review would make for a great follow up video. With regards to most people not 3betting the big blind at a high enough frequency, and missing out some of the weaker hands, how would you adjust your 4betting range here? My ranges have ~15% as optimal 3betting frequency BB vs BTN. Vs a player 3betting a very low percentage in this spot I think you can construct a very tight range of nuts only, but I'm not really sure what the cut-off point would be for removing all 4bet bluffs from our range? Also, vs someone around 10-12% how would you go about constructing your range? Would there still be a big deviation?
25.00 - 77 hand
I enjoyed the focus on exploit vs player pool tendencies in this video. Talking about those in real time whilst playing made for some really good content. With regards to this 77 hand, I ran it on PIO and it has 7x as a mix between bet and check on the river with very similar EVs for both actions. The calling range for the BB however has lots of one or two pair hands calling that I think lots of players would snap fold (particularly 1 pair hands like A9, Q9, J9, JT). I think therefore against humans it's probably best to check this hand, but I could be wrong. I would imagine most people are not check-raise bluffing enough due to non-obvious bluff candidates and it being relatively easy to have a 1 card nut hand here with AdX, which would add back to your EV of betting. Having said that, betting the 50% sizing probably induces more bluffs than a bigger sizing. It's an interesting river spot which I think plays very differently in practice to how it plays in a PIOSolver equilibrium.
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