$5,000 SCOOP: A Shortstacked, Tricky Final Table
Posted by Sam Greenwood
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I like this style of video very much with the in game explanations, keep them coming please
Nice run and very well explained. Thanks Sam!
Is the A/9 shove four handed too loose? 37:28
im kinda new to this but i ran it on gto wizard and i think A/9 min raises there.
I'd imagine the EV difference between shove and minraiseis negligible. If GTOW likes minraise/fold in this exact lineup it's probably right.
Sam Greenwood Been thinking through your reply for awhile before responding now
Before your video and response, I think I'd be shoving A/9 also and then seeing it as a mistake if the solver said differently. But you pointed out that the EV is negligible which makes me think I'm focusing on the wrong thing
So there is probably a higher level strategy concept I'm missing towards approaching a table like this. Maybe the idea to be as aggressive as possible in a big stack position even if its giving up EV slightly. Then being studied enough to know approximately which hands are shoveable from each position to take advantage of the strategy without needing to be perfect
Hope this makes sense
Enjoy all the content you make but would like to see if we can get more of these turbo/shorter stack analyses. Playing these stacks (sub 25 bbs) well is a must in the online and live tournaments I play.
Would you like to see short stack final table play or short stack chip EV play or a third option?
Both are good, I generally care more about chipEV but others probably care about money more than I do.
+1 really enjoyed this video and how you explained each players actions and what you would've done. Sub 25 itm/FT would be awesome.
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I think the technical mistake with shoving A9o and why the solver doesn't want to do it. You'd rather shove suited Ax that has better equity when called. You need to have some Ax in you raise fold range otherwise your opponents can play extremely aggresively preflop when they have an ace in their hand.
I think the higher level strategy concepts to apply at FTs are
1. Most ICM outputs are for one hand only, you need to think about what the best strategy is for the entire FT not just one hand. When I get dealt A9o here, stealing the blinds is valuable, but so is preserving my chip lead is very important. Raise folding allows me to preserve my chiplead if my opponents have a good hand. However, if you always raise/fold these sorts of hands, your opponents can counter and start reshoving more to exploit you raise/folding too much. In tournament poker there is always going to be a balance between maximizing your chip EV in a single hand, maximizing your ICM ev in a single hand and maximizing your future game EV. It's hard to do and there is no simple answer.
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