Really enjoying this video, thanks. In the first hand, it looks like KQ is cbetting a lot on the flop. Is this a value bet like AQ is? And what do you think about checking this hand as an exploit in weaker fields? I don’t think my opponents are continuing K9 or even KJ vs a cbet for the most part
I understand your point. However, I think in these weaker fields you will also face less craises and that's the more important factor. KQ is a pushing a slight equity advantage but can easily be 'outdrawn' - the only down side to betting is facing a craise it performs poorly, so I would go ahead and bet for the most part.
Excellent video Sam. It really showed why pio does the things it does.
My dumbed down take is to bluff with hands that unblock opponents fold rng. However, I think pio folds hands that a lot of people won't. In the second hand for example we don't turn barrel 8x much because it blocks straight draws opp will fold. In the real world a lot of people won't fold those draws even on 2 flush boards. So in that case wouldn't we want 8x as it blocks our opponents real world continuing rng as well as give us the ability to bluff straight card rivers?
When we block their draws they are more made hand heavy, but in lp vs blind spots those hands are more often weaker and we can just barrel them off with those draw blocking hands is my simplified take.
Amazing video Sam! This format is great! Studying with solvers lead to many discoveries, the subtility in the blockers, what seems intuitive but that is not correct. Fascinating!
Kind words indeed! It's definitely important to be understanding and articulating to yourself what a solver is telling you - rather than just trying to memorise.
I enjoyed the video. For the 9-2 SS hand, would you call off if your opponent jammed the turn on you? I think it would feel a bit awkward when this happens to have to fold off decent equity on the turn.
Think we should fold. As shown this is an incredibly good card for OOP and as a result IP should have very few jams. Carster will be aware of this and if he were to shove we have plenty of nut holdings we can call off.
I think it's blocking properties? All suited wheel aces just call pre. So Ad blocks all pairs plus the ace wheel draw? A5 is jamming flop and A3 A2 craising at a good frequency and we block these specifically.
Hi, haven't finished the video yet, but just wanted to say--for the first sim, I've noticed on those sorts of 3-wheel (non-Ace) boards, with a LP open v. BB defend, PIO tends to use multiple bet sizes at appreciable frequencies (for IP)--so these parameters were a bit of an indirect nodelock (giving only b33 for IP flop cbets). I have a feeling that if IP was offered b33, b66, and b100, not a single one would wash out (at bare minimum, 2 sizes would be used, with b66 being the most likely to wash out)
Of course, you may have done this intentionally, but wanted to mention it
[I've actually seen some pretty wild stuff with these flop textures--stuff like BTN open, BB defend (~30bb eff), and on, say, 643r, A6o using a pure b100 on flop for IP (but don't quote me on that specific one, I'm half asleep in bed at the moment)]
If anyone's curious, I've run the spot here. Please note that I disabled OOP flop donks, but that OOP donking flop is very much a thing on these types of boards--it's more about the fact that only a very % of the player pool is actually implementing them. It changes IP's flop strategy a bit, and I encourage anyone curious to run 2 sims to compare on boards such as this.
Note that b100 is the most common sizing for IP when he does indeed bet. Also take a look at A5 combos, as well as KK. These boards are definitely difficult to play.
If you ever think particular villains are being super lazy and simply betting a ton of their range for third pot or whatever on boards like this, I definitely encourage running a nodelocked version of this sim to see how to exploit that--though a lot of the exploits are pretty intuitive and perhaps can be figured out without even using PIO.
(images on RIO are hard to see, but the sizings here are, in order, b33, b66, b100, and b150)
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Fantastic video! I hope you can make more videos of this format in the future.
Glad you enjoyed it! Seems to have gone down well.
Really enjoying this video, thanks. In the first hand, it looks like KQ is cbetting a lot on the flop. Is this a value bet like AQ is? And what do you think about checking this hand as an exploit in weaker fields? I don’t think my opponents are continuing K9 or even KJ vs a cbet for the most part
I understand your point. However, I think in these weaker fields you will also face less craises and that's the more important factor. KQ is a pushing a slight equity advantage but can easily be 'outdrawn' - the only down side to betting is facing a craise it performs poorly, so I would go ahead and bet for the most part.
Excellent video Sam. It really showed why pio does the things it does.
My dumbed down take is to bluff with hands that unblock opponents fold rng. However, I think pio folds hands that a lot of people won't. In the second hand for example we don't turn barrel 8x much because it blocks straight draws opp will fold. In the real world a lot of people won't fold those draws even on 2 flush boards. So in that case wouldn't we want 8x as it blocks our opponents real world continuing rng as well as give us the ability to bluff straight card rivers?
When we block their draws they are more made hand heavy, but in lp vs blind spots those hands are more often weaker and we can just barrel them off with those draw blocking hands is my simplified take.
Thanks.
Amazing video Sam! This format is great! Studying with solvers lead to many discoveries, the subtility in the blockers, what seems intuitive but that is not correct. Fascinating!
Haha! Thanks so much. It's PIO that's fascinating not me !
Really liked the video Sam! Appreciate the thorough explanation + population exploits you noted.
I find studying GTO solutions the key to deriving good exploits!
Thank you for the great video. You got an amazing way of clearly expressing your thoughts on the hands and solver outputs!
Kind words indeed! It's definitely important to be understanding and articulating to yourself what a solver is telling you - rather than just trying to memorise.
I enjoyed the video. For the 9-2 SS hand, would you call off if your opponent jammed the turn on you? I think it would feel a bit awkward when this happens to have to fold off decent equity on the turn.
Think we should fold. As shown this is an incredibly good card for OOP and as a result IP should have very few jams. Carster will be aware of this and if he were to shove we have plenty of nut holdings we can call off.
I love it when Brits say "suited" with the glottal stop.
"Seven-five soo'ed."
Great video btw
Thanks met!
I smashed the like button, amazing video. Really enjoyed it.
Always appreciated!
Been great to watch the evolution of your videos Sam. Always getting better, cheers for it.
oioi! thanks fella! see you soon i hope!
why does pio prefer to cbet A6o w/ the Ad combos over the others? just bcs of equity disadvantage compared to the other Ax combos?
I think it's blocking properties? All suited wheel aces just call pre. So Ad blocks all pairs plus the ace wheel draw? A5 is jamming flop and A3 A2 craising at a good frequency and we block these specifically.
what a wonderful video! thanks, sam.
it's gone down really well. I'm glad.
great video thank you
No worries ;)
Awesome video!
Thanks Dirtbagpoker!
Hi, haven't finished the video yet, but just wanted to say--for the first sim, I've noticed on those sorts of 3-wheel (non-Ace) boards, with a LP open v. BB defend, PIO tends to use multiple bet sizes at appreciable frequencies (for IP)--so these parameters were a bit of an indirect nodelock (giving only b33 for IP flop cbets). I have a feeling that if IP was offered b33, b66, and b100, not a single one would wash out (at bare minimum, 2 sizes would be used, with b66 being the most likely to wash out)
Of course, you may have done this intentionally, but wanted to mention it
[I've actually seen some pretty wild stuff with these flop textures--stuff like BTN open, BB defend (~30bb eff), and on, say, 643r, A6o using a pure b100 on flop for IP (but don't quote me on that specific one, I'm half asleep in bed at the moment)]
Cheers
If anyone's curious, I've run the spot here. Please note that I disabled OOP flop donks, but that OOP donking flop is very much a thing on these types of boards--it's more about the fact that only a very % of the player pool is actually implementing them. It changes IP's flop strategy a bit, and I encourage anyone curious to run 2 sims to compare on boards such as this.
Note that b100 is the most common sizing for IP when he does indeed bet. Also take a look at A5 combos, as well as KK. These boards are definitely difficult to play.
If you ever think particular villains are being super lazy and simply betting a ton of their range for third pot or whatever on boards like this, I definitely encourage running a nodelocked version of this sim to see how to exploit that--though a lot of the exploits are pretty intuitive and perhaps can be figured out without even using PIO.
(images on RIO are hard to see, but the sizings here are, in order, b33, b66, b100, and b150)
Indeed, the point of the solve was to examine how to play against this opponent and the sizing the player pool uses here.
That said, thanks so much for this response. You've made me excited to fire up some solves and examine big sizings on this flop texture.
This kind of response from subscribers is absolutely invaluable and to the benefit of the whole community. So great that you shared your insight.
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