ICM Practice: Max Late Regging (40% Players Left)
Posted by Ryan Henry
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How early is too early to start stalling every hand preflop?
It seems excessive (& poor sportsmanship?) to do it right out of the gate (when late regging), but at the same time it has to be correct from a purely strategic standpoint, right?
Interested in hearing your thoughts, as well as others.
I am uncertain the answer from a theoretical standpoint, but generally I would consider staling when near a payjump or on the soft bubble ~1-3% of field to bust before the cash.
not sure it is a +ev strategy if you are a winning player. you make money off your big scores (final table runs) and it's obviously very hard to accumulate chips stalling every hand. you might min cash over 55% of the time but longterm you are better off playing real poker, learning from mistakes, and trying to accumulate a lot of chips, hitting the occasional big score. just my opinion
Hey slammin, do you mean late max regging isn't a +EV strategy or do you mean stalling it likely not a +ev strategy?
Hi Ryan, I meant stalling. I late reg all the time and been loving your videos!
Great video Ryan.
At 30:20 you jave 14bb utg. With 14bb in most positions I still have a raise/call and raise/fold rng. Do you still have these rngs at this stack depth?
At what stack depth do you eliminate these rngs amd go to jam or fold?
Utg 14bbs deep I would like to still 2x raise a lot. QTs could fit this spot especially if the table is weak.
Thanks.
Thanks mate, its a little different to what I usually do, but I think there is a lot of value to be had in knowing this.
Yes I still have a minraise strategy at 14BB. I actually think on the stone bubble its likely you could have a minraise strategy at ~8BB.
Yes if the table is weak then QTs could potentially go in, although I'm unsure if we want to open that wide on the stone bubble. Our inducing range is going to be very narrow JJ (Possible just QQ+) and AK+. ATo/AJo and some of the weaker suited Ax A8s-ATs (possibly AJs) and some of the stronger suited Ks/Qs will make for better raise folds than QTs. Essentially we don't want a massive discrepancy between our value inducing range and our raise folds as players can really take advantage of that. But yes if the table is very weak and if players aren't reshoving very wide then I think QTs will make for a nice raise fold.
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