4:00 if hero had a diamond, particularly a high diamond, would you consider a river diamond to potentially be an out as well given we could jam as a bluff?
11:30 do you not have any flats from the sb in this spot?
26:20 what would the bottom of your calling range be? Aqo?
4:00: I would consider a river diamond to be an out at some % of the time. The issue is we need to assume that our opponent will fold to a river donk of 1/2 pot, which sure will happen at some %, essentially villain needs to defend 66% of their bluff catchers on river, if they overfold enough to negate the ~4% more equity needed on turn then it will be mostly fine (just remember chips gained isn't as important as chips lost in this scenario, ICM + future game of a 8bb stack vs a 17bb stack and then also vs 28bb stack when villain folds to a river shove). Overall I think its a long stretch to make a play like this with a diamond, you need a very very strong read to be able to make this play profitable and I would just fold turn even with a high diamond.
11:30: Generally the closer we are to the money we do less flatting and also with shorter effective stacks we do less flatting. Looking back at this hand now, especially being so deep with the BB I really like just flatting the A9s. 3betting will still be +ev, but I think suboptimal compared to the flat. Nice find!
26:20: I'm not 100% sure exactly what % of the field are remaining, but I know we're in the money at this point. Vs most players my bottom will be AQs.
26:15: In this spot being in the money I generally would just 3bet shove under 15bb effective. But with very high ICM, say FT I would have 3bets not all in off 14bb, but at under 13bb effective I would just play shoves.
36:24: Three reasons, we're deep ITM, so higher ICM pressure, opponent opening off a shallow stack depth (more of a strong condensed range), positions (still a lot of players behind left to act)
20:30 You did suggest jamming very very deep on river for around 9 pots what felt bit extreme.
Do you think solver would approve open jam river on 8-9 pots or do you think it more of good exploit to jam some hands in game this deep?
20:30: Solver would have some shoves here (much more in a bounty), it will be a low % and will be based around flushes. In reality I don't think I've ever seen someone check back a flush IP on the turn here and so your nutted range can go very large as in my opinion our opponent is much more capped in reality, compared to the solver. Also it depends how wide our opponent value raises a small bet and how often they bluff raise a small bet, if this happens often enough then I can see our range wanting to shove a lot less as we will have an opportunity to jam back over their raise. If this very rarely happens, then the highest EV line will to use a really large sizing ourselves.
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Great review!
4:00 if hero had a diamond, particularly a high diamond, would you consider a river diamond to potentially be an out as well given we could jam as a bluff?
11:30 do you not have any flats from the sb in this spot?
26:20 what would the bottom of your calling range be? Aqo?
Thanks!
Thanks mate, glad you found it useful.
4:00: I would consider a river diamond to be an out at some % of the time. The issue is we need to assume that our opponent will fold to a river donk of 1/2 pot, which sure will happen at some %, essentially villain needs to defend 66% of their bluff catchers on river, if they overfold enough to negate the ~4% more equity needed on turn then it will be mostly fine (just remember chips gained isn't as important as chips lost in this scenario, ICM + future game of a 8bb stack vs a 17bb stack and then also vs 28bb stack when villain folds to a river shove). Overall I think its a long stretch to make a play like this with a diamond, you need a very very strong read to be able to make this play profitable and I would just fold turn even with a high diamond.
11:30: Generally the closer we are to the money we do less flatting and also with shorter effective stacks we do less flatting. Looking back at this hand now, especially being so deep with the BB I really like just flatting the A9s. 3betting will still be +ev, but I think suboptimal compared to the flat. Nice find!
26:20: I'm not 100% sure exactly what % of the field are remaining, but I know we're in the money at this point. Vs most players my bottom will be AQs.
Great video. I learned a lot. Looking forward to the final table and heads up sections.
26:15 At what stack depth should the 15bb player stop having 3Bet Not All-Ins and only have reshoves instead?
36:24 Why only play 3Bets, no flats in this situation?
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed!
26:15: In this spot being in the money I generally would just 3bet shove under 15bb effective. But with very high ICM, say FT I would have 3bets not all in off 14bb, but at under 13bb effective I would just play shoves.
36:24: Three reasons, we're deep ITM, so higher ICM pressure, opponent opening off a shallow stack depth (more of a strong condensed range), positions (still a lot of players behind left to act)
Great Video Ryan, will watch next part soon.
20:30 You did suggest jamming very very deep on river for around 9 pots what felt bit extreme.
Do you think solver would approve open jam river on 8-9 pots or do you think it more of good exploit to jam some hands in game this deep?
Thanks mate!
20:30: Solver would have some shoves here (much more in a bounty), it will be a low % and will be based around flushes. In reality I don't think I've ever seen someone check back a flush IP on the turn here and so your nutted range can go very large as in my opinion our opponent is much more capped in reality, compared to the solver. Also it depends how wide our opponent value raises a small bet and how often they bluff raise a small bet, if this happens often enough then I can see our range wanting to shove a lot less as we will have an opportunity to jam back over their raise. If this very rarely happens, then the highest EV line will to use a really large sizing ourselves.
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