20:06, from memory this is final 2 or final table. Theory wise 55 would be a fold here in both of those situations. If our opponent was really really wide I can see this being profitable, also if they were a bit wider than equilibrium and lets say it was a small field I can see this again being a profitable shove (would be making very close to 0 in that situation though). If you can be bothered running it then it would be interesting to see, but I also just had a quick look in GTOwiz then and it would most likely be 77+ (depending on the exact situation in game)
Great video Ryan, looking forward to heads up match.
13:15 AJo
I did run spot with ChipEV and ICM with everything else same.
There seem to be big difference between Final table ICM and ChipEV how we play this spot and it not anymore range small cbet here but between small and jam.
BB supposed to fold flush draws and Tx vs jam in ICM vs jam on flop, calling off basically Ax and Tx with flush draw and best combo draws only.
As of jamming range It does look like all our Brodways with no club goes in being balanced with our mid-high Ace with no club. Everything else bets small.
You're right I just ran this spot myself and it looks you're right with us wanting to have shoves. My output said we mix between shove (37% of the time), check 16% and B31% 47% of the time.
While this strategy is more optimal at equilibrium, we need to ask ourselves a few things, Do we think our opponent is calling the correct range vs a shove? If they call too many flushdraws we would want to shove less. I think its likely population call K high FDs here, I also think its likely we see some KT or QT call here with a club at some frequency. The way I would approach this situation is I would still range bet small as the EV difference is very minimal, also I think its somewhat likely our opponents will call too wide vs a shove (meaning we want to shove less often with range), and lastly it can be easy to make with frequencies, eg 37% shove, 47% B31% and 16% shove, which might actually make range betting 1/3 a higher EV strategy due to human error. Anyway just my thoughts around exploitable adjustments and for simplicity given the EV difference is tiny.
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Hi Ryan,
22:06 55 I feel this is a jam 6 handed. It may be the bottom of range and maybe full ring it would be a fold.
Thanks!
Hey mate,
20:06, from memory this is final 2 or final table. Theory wise 55 would be a fold here in both of those situations. If our opponent was really really wide I can see this being profitable, also if they were a bit wider than equilibrium and lets say it was a small field I can see this again being a profitable shove (would be making very close to 0 in that situation though). If you can be bothered running it then it would be interesting to see, but I also just had a quick look in GTOwiz then and it would most likely be 77+ (depending on the exact situation in game)
Hi Ryan. I don't have access to any solvers right now but I didn't give enough weight to ICM so that makes sense.
Great video Ryan, looking forward to heads up match.
13:15 AJo
I did run spot with ChipEV and ICM with everything else same.
There seem to be big difference between Final table ICM and ChipEV how we play this spot and it not anymore range small cbet here but between small and jam.
BB supposed to fold flush draws and Tx vs jam in ICM vs jam on flop, calling off basically Ax and Tx with flush draw and best combo draws only.
As of jamming range It does look like all our Brodways with no club goes in being balanced with our mid-high Ace with no club. Everything else bets small.
You're right I just ran this spot myself and it looks you're right with us wanting to have shoves. My output said we mix between shove (37% of the time), check 16% and B31% 47% of the time.
While this strategy is more optimal at equilibrium, we need to ask ourselves a few things, Do we think our opponent is calling the correct range vs a shove? If they call too many flushdraws we would want to shove less. I think its likely population call K high FDs here, I also think its likely we see some KT or QT call here with a club at some frequency. The way I would approach this situation is I would still range bet small as the EV difference is very minimal, also I think its somewhat likely our opponents will call too wide vs a shove (meaning we want to shove less often with range), and lastly it can be easy to make with frequencies, eg 37% shove, 47% B31% and 16% shove, which might actually make range betting 1/3 a higher EV strategy due to human error. Anyway just my thoughts around exploitable adjustments and for simplicity given the EV difference is tiny.
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