At 9:10, Q8cc, what will be the bottom of your continuing range against this raise? And with this sizing, which other hands than Q8cc and AA are you gonna bet on the turn?
More general and beginner question, sorry if it does not fit with an exact hand of the session, but looking at the KQdd hand at 9:34 I assume you mostly play a 3bet/fold strategy in the SB, so I guess you are basically cbetting almost any board versus mp-btn with 1/3rd pot or less here? Or even maybe against UTG?
You seem to have a sick setup btw, do you stream in english sometimes, on twitch or youtube? :D
At 9.10 I would bet Kx QQ AJ+ for value and I would continue vs Raise with Pairs + Equity in general (You can fold weak pairs like K5 but you should call at least once with hands like QQ, AK, KQ, AA
In the hand at 9.34 I am not sure what you mean with a 3bet/Fold strategy, I actually would do Call4bet with a decent group of hands. About the size it depends, I actually like 75% pot with that hand as well vs BTN. Vs Early I usually do 50% flop in 3betpots OOP or Check-Whatever depending of the situation.
At 26.30 what are your thoughts about developing a leading range in these kind of spots where you check-call OOP and the turn is favorable for you? Like the aces in this specific hand.
I personally dont think it´s a good idea because we dont have many twopairs+ in our range and that´s important when we create a leading Range (We bet Pairs+ Top kicker on the flop), also we shouldn´t have only Aces playing Xcall on the flop so it´s good to have them and we can play XC XC XC comfortable. and XC XC XF comfortable as well with weaker hands.
I dont think I complexly agree on this. Of course its a problem that you are unlikely to have have two pair here but the turn is nonetheless very good for your range so we can expect villain to check back here a lot. I haven't run it in Pio(I should do that) but a small sizing lead seems like a good idea and you have plenty of bluffs here to balance out your range. SB strats varies a lot here in my opinion but I think many SB check-call strats will contain some very strong hands with some frequency.
At 33.30 you are discussing what size to use for the turn barrel, and you choose 2/3 pot. (You 3bet from the BB against a CO open with A5s, Cbets 1/2 pot on 443r with a bdfd and the turn is an offsuit J). You end up with 2/3 pot saying that a smaller bet will be a mistake. Why do you think that? I would say that a smaller size like 40% pot would make perfect sense on this super dry board setting it up nicely for a river jam.
About the flop - what is your thoughts on betting 110ish % pot setting it up for a potential turn jam balancing it out with a value range consisting primarily of the JJ-99 region?
About your first question when I studied 3betpots with Pio it wouldn´t recomend smaller sizings than 66-75% on the Turn. The Higher you bet the more you can bluff and the more you can bluff the more money you make, that´s the logic behind it.
Your second question, basically you only need to bet very strong on the flop when there are a lot of draws open but not completed to prepare a potential Turn jam, you can review that with Pio Solver as well for more details.
Regarding the first question about the turn sizing your argument does have a flipside? When your turn sizing is so big that it leaves you with a pretty small SPR you cant bluff the river so much. Do you think that Im getting something wrong here?
About the flop Cbet sizing. I agree that big(pot+) is mostly used on flops where there is draws which isn't completed. I have done a lot of Pio work on this topic myself. Im pretty sure that on very specific flops like this Pio regards hands like AQ-ATs, KQ-KJs, QJs, AKo, AQo with bdfd like "draws" understood in the way that BB has a lot of nutted hands on the flop but also hands that is very likely to be much weaker after to additional cards. Therefore Im pretty confident that Pio would prefer to play hands like QQ-99 very fast(pot flop and all in turn with various frequencies. What do you think about this?
3:14, KJss on J98cc is there not a case to be made for protection betting ?
You say you cant get weaker to call but perhaps TT esp with a club or AK with a club could call ?
6.40 77 you go for 25% rvr bet, could you explain the idea behind that a little bit ? Do you aim to get AK to call ? Or do you want to block villain from making a bigger bet ?
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Hi Elias, very very informative video, thx!
At 9:10, Q8cc, what will be the bottom of your continuing range against this raise? And with this sizing, which other hands than Q8cc and AA are you gonna bet on the turn?
More general and beginner question, sorry if it does not fit with an exact hand of the session, but looking at the KQdd hand at 9:34 I assume you mostly play a 3bet/fold strategy in the SB, so I guess you are basically cbetting almost any board versus mp-btn with 1/3rd pot or less here? Or even maybe against UTG?
You seem to have a sick setup btw, do you stream in english sometimes, on twitch or youtube? :D
At 9.10 I would bet Kx QQ AJ+ for value and I would continue vs Raise with Pairs + Equity in general (You can fold weak pairs like K5 but you should call at least once with hands like QQ, AK, KQ, AA
In the hand at 9.34 I am not sure what you mean with a 3bet/Fold strategy, I actually would do Call4bet with a decent group of hands. About the size it depends, I actually like 75% pot with that hand as well vs BTN. Vs Early I usually do 50% flop in 3betpots OOP or Check-Whatever depending of the situation.
I only stream in Spanish hehe
Would love more Bodog videos please. I noticed in a couple of your videos that sometimes you 3b oop to 9bb and sometimes to 12bb, why is that?
BB I usually do 12bbs and SB 9bbs (I also change vs middle stacks)
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Hi Elias
At 26.30 what are your thoughts about developing a leading range in these kind of spots where you check-call OOP and the turn is favorable for you? Like the aces in this specific hand.
I personally dont think it´s a good idea because we dont have many twopairs+ in our range and that´s important when we create a leading Range (We bet Pairs+ Top kicker on the flop), also we shouldn´t have only Aces playing Xcall on the flop so it´s good to have them and we can play XC XC XC comfortable. and XC XC XF comfortable as well with weaker hands.
I dont think I complexly agree on this. Of course its a problem that you are unlikely to have have two pair here but the turn is nonetheless very good for your range so we can expect villain to check back here a lot. I haven't run it in Pio(I should do that) but a small sizing lead seems like a good idea and you have plenty of bluffs here to balance out your range. SB strats varies a lot here in my opinion but I think many SB check-call strats will contain some very strong hands with some frequency.
Another one for you :-)
At 33.30 you are discussing what size to use for the turn barrel, and you choose 2/3 pot. (You 3bet from the BB against a CO open with A5s, Cbets 1/2 pot on 443r with a bdfd and the turn is an offsuit J). You end up with 2/3 pot saying that a smaller bet will be a mistake. Why do you think that? I would say that a smaller size like 40% pot would make perfect sense on this super dry board setting it up nicely for a river jam.
About the flop - what is your thoughts on betting 110ish % pot setting it up for a potential turn jam balancing it out with a value range consisting primarily of the JJ-99 region?
About your first question when I studied 3betpots with Pio it wouldn´t recomend smaller sizings than 66-75% on the Turn. The Higher you bet the more you can bluff and the more you can bluff the more money you make, that´s the logic behind it.
Your second question, basically you only need to bet very strong on the flop when there are a lot of draws open but not completed to prepare a potential Turn jam, you can review that with Pio Solver as well for more details.
Hi Elias
Thanks for your response.
Regarding the first question about the turn sizing your argument does have a flipside? When your turn sizing is so big that it leaves you with a pretty small SPR you cant bluff the river so much. Do you think that Im getting something wrong here?
About the flop Cbet sizing. I agree that big(pot+) is mostly used on flops where there is draws which isn't completed. I have done a lot of Pio work on this topic myself. Im pretty sure that on very specific flops like this Pio regards hands like AQ-ATs, KQ-KJs, QJs, AKo, AQo with bdfd like "draws" understood in the way that BB has a lot of nutted hands on the flop but also hands that is very likely to be much weaker after to additional cards. Therefore Im pretty confident that Pio would prefer to play hands like QQ-99 very fast(pot flop and all in turn with various frequencies. What do you think about this?
Found this one really entertaining for some reason. Cheers Elias!
You make great videos. Keep it up! More bodog videos would be nice :).
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3:14, KJss on J98cc is there not a case to be made for protection betting ?
You say you cant get weaker to call but perhaps TT esp with a club or AK with a club could call ?
6.40 77 you go for 25% rvr bet, could you explain the idea behind that a little bit ? Do you aim to get AK to call ? Or do you want to block villain from making a bigger bet ?
You suggest normally raising smaller from the button but Snowie raises larger from the button.
Please comment on this divergence in advice.
Thsnj you.
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