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POSTED Jan 04, 2019

John Andress cracks open the solver tools in this installment to dig deep into 3 bet pots with a monotone flop.

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Nihithaw 6 years, 2 months ago

Nice video :)
I think a common mistake in this spot would be oop c-betting too much. It would have been nice to see what happens in that case. I personnaly think that I would have c-bet too much before watching the video.
Thank you

SwissDollars 6 years, 2 months ago

Great stuff, I like your comment on PIO adjusting villain's strategy on future streets due to us node-locking his flop strategy and being mindful about it. Also how much those strategy adjustments are really worth in EV to us. Like Nihithaw, I'd have appreciated node-locking the OOP over c-betting and also looking at a single-raised pot vs BB and which hands we 3-barell-bluff. keep up the good work!

errrrahhhh 6 years, 2 months ago

Nice Video: At 16:18 I'm trying to understand the calculation. .03 x 2000 = 60, so 6/10 of a BB because the game is 50 100.

After that, I understood you to say that it's 60 BB / 100 or 16 bb / 100? I think you said 60BB per 100. I'm having trouble understanding how this affects win rate that much with a small % adjustment. Thanks

John Andress 6 years, 2 months ago

Hey,
It is 60bb/100, an exploit worth 3% of a 20bb pot will be worth a lot over 100 instances. The bb/100 metric can be confusing comparatively but for reference: our worst hands lose 100bb/100 from the big blind vs rfi (pure folds). Goes to show how important precision can be, especially when the pot is worth a lot of bb!

Also keep in mind that this is a model of game play that makes a lot of assumptions. With complete transparency villain gives up 3% in this example, but in practice its nearly impossible to perfectly exploit this mistake on all streets

sirin 6 years ago

Hey John, nice video. I'm new to PIO and trying to learn by running the same sims myself, but using my own ranges/sizings. In this one, I used my SB vs BTN 3bet range for 100bb cash games, with no ante, and the results I got were very different - OOP cbetting about 45% of the time.

Obviously I made some changes to the setup, tighter ranges, only one (small) betsize, but it still seems like a huge discrepancy. It would be great if you could take a look at the setup and see if I've done something wrong. (The only other difference is that I have it set to round strategies to 1/10 to make it easier to look at)

John Andress 6 years ago

hey i offer private coaching at an hourly rate. If you are interested you can send me pm and I will give you the details

sirin 6 years ago

Thanks maybe I'll contact you in future but I'm not looking for a coach at the moment I was just trying to figure out if I was using the program right.

John Andress 6 years ago

you are missing the IP flop bet. That means in this situation, if oop checks, ip is forced to check back. Not including donk bet option may also skew other nodes

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