$500 Zoom: Exploitation and Short-Handed
Posted by Gary Chappell
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Hi! I'm curious about something: how do you analyze pool trends, patterns and things like that? I would like some ideas about how to begin such a task(because, to me, it feels overwhelming). Thank you and congrats on the video! Your analysis is very detailed.
You can use your database to pool together players and create an alias (so I use regs in 500z), and from there use the average stats of whatever it is you want to know. I also learn a lot from just playing and seeing what goes on.
Thank you for the quick response!
Hi Gary! Thanx for the video. I have some difficulties with understanding the first hand (QcQs on KKTdds.
1. You've mentioned that you could fold some JJ, QQ, AA with diamonds vs this c/r size. Don't you think it's making him bluffs too much profitable giving the pot size? (You are folding about 50% of hands if I understand correct the Cold 4bet range)
2. The opponent has more than enough eq to call your Cbet but tough decision in 3bet AI scenario. Don't you think that c/r is not the best way to realize A4s eq?
2.1. After your call on the flop, don't you think he is just not getting enough folds on this turn to shove A4dd? ( blocking Ad).
I have enough Kx in my range in this spot to be protected, so I don't believe I need to call all my non-Kx value hands. Those that block his high frequency bluffs would therefore make it into my folding range.
I think his play is fine and definitely generates folds.
9minute I'm starting to have deja vu
That hand, what value-shoves you will have? I imagine only flop slowplays, but you mentioned that you will x/r good FD so that leaves you with slightly narrow range. Don't think you have 36s, T6s, an A6o vs 3.5x preflop size.
33, TT, A10s, A3s, A6s would be my value shoves. I'm most likely to x/r 33 & TT on the flop as they unblock Ax, with 2 pairs being higher freq calls. Most of these hands would be a mix flop & turn.
T6s, A6o, A3o & 63s wouldn't be in my range vs 3.5x.
32minute, lol possible KQo made that play
How do you feel the pool, as a whole, reacts with QQ in your spot in Hand 1? Do you consider the A4dd play to be a very successful line against the average player in the $500 ZOOM pool?
I would guess most regs would adopt a similar thinking strategy to myself, distinguishing which hands are calls and folds to be balanced, using blocking/unblocking effects.
Hi Gary, nice video!
14:32 what do you think about 3bet calling flop here? His x/r sizing seems really weak and unlikely to have us beat, while our hand is in need of a ton of protection and unblocks a lot of strong draws.
Similarly, what do u think about shoving turn over his bet? Again it just feels like we are so seldom beat here and we can punish his draws a lot by shoving over his bet.
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Both would work fine yes and have merits. I think I would've shoved turns if it came a blank low card, but felt I needed to tread slightly more carefully against some Qx 2 pairs & Qx flush draws.
Hi gary liked the video,
Your final hand with KJhh on J35Q you talked about thinking ahead to brick rivers and that you'd choose AJ over KJ as a call turn call river because having an A is better than a K, K blocks KK KQ, A blocks AA AQ which is the same. having K blocks KT and AK which is bad, but having A blocks AT AK and even potentially A24s which you didnt mention. so i dont really understand your explanation
That’s a fair point. There’s also K9s in the range which you didn’t mention. But definitely more random Axs that come into a 3B range that may just be bluffing. The opponent is going to be more happy barrelling AQ for value than KQ here, so I think having the A over K is advantageous for that reason. Interesting spot for sure.
i dislike the fact that you chose hands for this vid that were played vs recreational players as
i think most players watching this will be able to make the adjustment of lighter calldowns vs spewy donks.
range vs range analysis in reg vs reg situations. especially vs guys who you rank highly would be much more instructive imho.
again very precise and clean comentary, thank you.
thanks for the feedback and I tend to agree. i'll remember this for my future videos, thanks mate.
Thanks for another great video Gary. Started watching you this week, and am lovin it.
Coming from a live setting would you prefer to flat call here if you thought you have less FE or fold? Calling ($135 + $95 + $412) so $642/ $135 giving you 4.75 : 1 odds (17.3%) with roughly 12 outs, but don't always get paid off when flush hits. How would you approach this turn with less FE? If you expect them to call turn with AJ+ since there are two flush draws on board.
If I think I'm getting called too wide, i'd fold. I don't think a call is profitable, a) because we are oop without too much equity, and b) as you say, if we donk jam river once we hit I don't think Ax calls very often.
I ran into this exact spot yesterday, but had 5c4c on Ac3cTs5s board, ran into Ah3h and got stacked :(
23:10 is this a spot that you would check range? I think you do check raise some flush draws on the flop so you can still barrel this turn (maybe even bet the whole range for small size), and I think 66 would be a nice inclusion into the betting range. Cause if you only barrel the turn with flushes or bluffs then you will have problems when the river pairs the board. Maybe check with low sets (33 55) and barrel with top set (66) - get some value from lower sets and prepare to win a big pot if the river pairs.
I think I explained my reasoning in some detail in the video, your strategy sounds fine though. Some explo. went into my reasoning as well.
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