3-Bet Pots IP: Hand Review
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Hi Patrick, Do you play live poker at all? Wondering how you would adapt some of your range vs 4bb open sizes and how wide you are attacking some of the wide limping range. Say on avg people are playing some where around 35/10 style.
Video suggestion: I know Tyler Forrester did a replayer video of hands where he saw the turn. Making a video where you saw the river would be nice, not only for 3bet pots but also SRP as well.
I think live poker is a difficult one, because the lineups/rake structure varies so much. Lower stakes live games where the rake is higher (rather than 5/10+ which is often session fee) probably incentivises us to take the pot down preflop more often if we can. It's going to depend on the player who is opening - If we 3B them, are they going to fold too much, call too much etc. If we 3B them are we forcing a very big recreational player out of the pot behind us that we are incentivised to play with etc.
I know this probably isnt the answer you are looking for, but it should certainly be apparent some adjustments you could make based on the above. Hope this helps
Even though the drop is higher in live games, $6 if it goes to the flop where I play. I find not getting into preflop wars is best because the biggest mistakes are made postflop. You really have to get a feel for mw pots. They tend to be stations preflop and fit or fold postflop. My strategy is basically given them a price preflop and flop, where they tend to just fold on later streets vs the double barrel. I also tend to have position and overall semi-tight range, so it works out pretty well long run for me. Some times I'll value town myself with AJ, when they limp call AQ, but at the end of the day, their range also contains some A8o and some low suited aces. I am not sure if this would work online or not, but I would assume it's similar style of BTN vs BB, where BB has a good price, but overall range disadvantage on most boards.
Great vidéo ! thanks alot :)
The title should say: 3bet Pots IP vs a fish.
Haha not sure if this is a criticism, I simply filtered for 3BPs IP in my database. There were some hands vs regulars but I agree that most happened to be vs recreationals. Fwiw a leak most people have is that they are not maximally exploiting rec players so hopefully there should be value, even if this is a criticism!
Hopefully you enjoyed the video nonetheless
Hello Patrick. The AK hand at 24 mins. Given the positions and FR game, we probably don't have all QJs combos and few JTs/QTs combos here? So with the range bet strategy on the flop could some combos of QQ function as a buff here?
Potentially, but I think population are likely to float too many pocket pairs vs 25% cbet than they perhaps should, making the xb EV of QQ probably higher than a solver would suggest. I think we might decide to bluff some of the QQdx/JJdx combos or perhaps some trace amount of KXs to go with some equitable bluffs
hi Patrick Sekinger based on Queenofcups comments on 3bet range, what range are you 3 betting in this spot? In the games I play in I do mix in quite a few 3 bets with suited broadways, depending on opening size and player.
Does the pool in these games not turn the smaller PPs into bluffs on the river vs xx turn? - The Party pool does this a lot on Axx but I'm not sure if it's correct?
From the callers perspective. I think on this board, which hits 3b range so well, especially in earlier positions then PPs should mostly be folded anyway on flop right so I fold these with perhaps TT being my weakest PP continue. But again the party pool generally doesn't fold the weaker PPs too (vs 1/3 cbet).
Am I overfolding or is the pool overcalling?
On the K64hh texture with ATo, I think an exploit could actually be to use a 40-50% c-bet and expect alot of PP's to fold the flop, especially the 22-55 region, still think 77+ might make a call. If we do this we probably cannot barrel turn as effectively, but it would give us more immediate fold equity from a good chunk of hands, and since he already has quite a wide range, we can still expect him to be way overfolding and us to not be losing out on much by using a slightly bigger sizing
good video
Hi, Patrick Sekinger, another great video. I really enjoy your videos where you isolate certain actions, like this one, or "Hands I played OOP," etc. I would like to see more from you along these lines. Maybe something like, "Hands I 3 barrelled as a bluff," or "Hands where I turned showdown value into a bluff," or "Hands where I called a 3bet OOP," or anything along these lines. Thanks a bunch for your training. I am upgrading to an Elite membership but will continue to eagerly view all of your content that you continue to put out. After all, it really is Elite level stuff!
One of the best essential videos I've seen on here. The HH reviews are great and they're even better when you talk about how to exploit rec players.
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