Have been looking forward to the continuance of this series. I enjoy the PLO MTT coverage in general - I think this aspect of PLO is strategically intriguing and challenging. I am one of the few that don’t find it boring!
yeah that was fun, I live in a household of extroverts so when I was presented with the opportunity to talk about myself for a solid hour I grabbed it with both hands...:p
Q442 has crossed the line from "opening a bit wide ep" to "next stop, punt city". While I'm sure some of this is an intentional adjustment to take advantage of his perception that you are playing snug from the button and Rollz being oop, still interesting to see how far players are deviating pre.
tbh, i think there are a few explanations
-probirs has no understanding of reasonable preflop play (zero chance, hes a long time elite MTT pro)
-probirs misclicked (nonzero % chance in isolation, but taken in conjunction with his other looseish RFIs, seems unlikely)
-probirs has deliberately decided to play super loose for some unknown reason (quite possible, hes def the pugnacious type and sometimes from an outside perspective gets in moods where he tries to steamroll ppl, notable though that his postflop play is most unsteamroller-like)
-probirs has decided to play super loose for the specific reason that he has divined the dynamic you mention and is seeking to profit from it, whilst simultaneously toning down postflop aggression to partially compensate (also quite possible, would be very impressive, fits quite well with the data so far provided)
Loving the series. When we say that chips won from fellow short stacks are worth more than chips won from big stacks, is it not the case that chips lost to fellow short stacks is, to an equal degree, more damaging than chips lost to big stacks?
I guess not, as for the other short stack, if they have say 20BB, then, for them, adding 10BB is not as valuable as losing 10BB is damaging for them? So, maybe the better way of thinking about it is- because of this, making another short stack gamble some of their chips is a useful thing?
"is it not the case that chips lost to fellow short stacks is, to an equal degree, more damaging than chips lost to big stacks?"
its def more damaging, the additional pain is shared, albeit unevenly, amongst all other parties though so im not sure of its relative weight and the extent to which it can vary.
"I guess not, as for the other short stack, if they have say 20BB, then, for them, adding 10BB is not as valuable as losing 10BB is damaging for them?"
to an extent, but its not just "adding" chips out of thin air, but "taking" chips from someone whose stack size more directly impacts their own EV.
", maybe the better way of thinking about it is- because of this, making another short stack gamble some of their chips is a useful thing?"
this is only the case if the downside to them exceeds the downside to you.
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Have been looking forward to the continuance of this series. I enjoy the PLO MTT coverage in general - I think this aspect of PLO is strategically intriguing and challenging. I am one of the few that don’t find it boring!
glad to hear im not alone in that opinion :)
Great as always
and tyty as always to you :)
This video made my day, you are one of the best video makers on the site
glad to hear it, and thank you very much :)
You are to PLO MTTs what Drake is to music. Beautiful.
digging the Ontarian angle to this :)
Really enjoying this series (and the PLO Puzzle). Was nice to hear from you on the monthly Elite call too. Hope all is well!
yeah that was fun, I live in a household of extroverts so when I was presented with the opportunity to talk about myself for a solid hour I grabbed it with both hands...:p
Q442 has crossed the line from "opening a bit wide ep" to "next stop, punt city". While I'm sure some of this is an intentional adjustment to take advantage of his perception that you are playing snug from the button and Rollz being oop, still interesting to see how far players are deviating pre.
who needs strategy when you have skillz... :)
tbh, i think there are a few explanations
-probirs has no understanding of reasonable preflop play (zero chance, hes a long time elite MTT pro)
-probirs misclicked (nonzero % chance in isolation, but taken in conjunction with his other looseish RFIs, seems unlikely)
-probirs has deliberately decided to play super loose for some unknown reason (quite possible, hes def the pugnacious type and sometimes from an outside perspective gets in moods where he tries to steamroll ppl, notable though that his postflop play is most unsteamroller-like)
-probirs has decided to play super loose for the specific reason that he has divined the dynamic you mention and is seeking to profit from it, whilst simultaneously toning down postflop aggression to partially compensate (also quite possible, would be very impressive, fits quite well with the data so far provided)
Loving the series. When we say that chips won from fellow short stacks are worth more than chips won from big stacks, is it not the case that chips lost to fellow short stacks is, to an equal degree, more damaging than chips lost to big stacks?
I guess not, as for the other short stack, if they have say 20BB, then, for them, adding 10BB is not as valuable as losing 10BB is damaging for them? So, maybe the better way of thinking about it is- because of this, making another short stack gamble some of their chips is a useful thing?
"is it not the case that chips lost to fellow short stacks is, to an equal degree, more damaging than chips lost to big stacks?"
its def more damaging, the additional pain is shared, albeit unevenly, amongst all other parties though so im not sure of its relative weight and the extent to which it can vary.
"I guess not, as for the other short stack, if they have say 20BB, then, for them, adding 10BB is not as valuable as losing 10BB is damaging for them?"
to an extent, but its not just "adding" chips out of thin air, but "taking" chips from someone whose stack size more directly impacts their own EV.
", maybe the better way of thinking about it is- because of this, making another short stack gamble some of their chips is a useful thing?"
this is only the case if the downside to them exceeds the downside to you.
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