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How to Be Less Results-Oriented (part 2)

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Leszek Badurowicz

POSTED Jun 30, 2018

In part 2 of his How To Be Less Results-Oriented series, Leszek Badurowicz discusses the concepts of being task-oriented, building a healthy philosophy, and focusing on a quality approach.

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Xptboy 6 years, 8 months ago

How often would you recommend others to check the graph?

Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 8 months ago

It's hard to find a very clear-cut line as it's pretty individual. Long story short, some people are really results-oriented and are affected quite a lot, not only by the overall results but also by being mentally attached to the current result of the session (e.g. I was winning 1k and now "only" $200 which feels bad). In this case it's good to start working on being less results-oriented and view results as rarely as possible. I know example of players who check their graphs once a month.
However some players are not affected by their results that much and in this case checking their result may not have that big impact on their game.
Interestingly, some players have a strong need for feeling a complete control over every aspect of the game. In their case checking the result might be actually beneficial because they feel like they gain back the control over the game. Of course this is temporary solution and in the long run it's better to work on some other ways of feeling "in control" like very good session preparation but just wanted to show that in mental game usually the answer is "it depends" :-)

jimmylaessig25 6 years, 8 months ago

I normally don't comment videos here, but this was one of the most helpfull poker videos I've watched so far (and I'm playing since 2006 now ^^)

I noticed that I got so many leaks concerning my mindset and they always lead to highly emotional sessions. I love your approach, because you manage to tell players WHAT TO DO and WHAT TO THINK during a session, not only what to avoid. So that means you offer a positive and constructive approach of "do's" that can fill players minds during a session, and that was exactely what I was looking for.
Iknow that checking results isn't good for my mental state and that being result orientated will decrease the quality of my game but after some bad beats or mostly after some stupid mistakes, I often tend to leave "the right path" and I become somehow emotional/tilted.
I'm pretty sure that your solutions/suggestions on finding a "healthy game philosophy" can contribute a lot on decreasing my tilt problem.
Ty so much
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Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 8 months ago

Totally agree.

Telling what to avoid and what not to do is just a part of the job. Therefore I also perceive as super important to show what you can actually do and what you can focus your attention on. That constructive part is always more important and more difficult one. Thank you for your feedback!

Mike H 6 years, 8 months ago

could you upload the mental game journal excel file template please?

Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 8 months ago

Sure! Here you have a link to the example mental game journal https://uploadfiles.io/s7s70

Please have in mind that this is example and some players may need different categories to measure the key elements for their mental game.

Diego Ramirez 6 years, 8 months ago

I have a question regarding mental game evaluation. Should it be made before or after reviewing hands, if that is part of our cool down routine?

It seems to me that in order to evaluate, as in your case, "Quality of big decisions on big pots", or quality of game in general, maybe it would help if we took a look at the big pots. Or in order to have a better assesment on the quality of play, maybe reviewing a little bit of what happened might help. Just your opinion on if it's better rigth after the session or after reviewing, as hand reviewing usually takes me about 45 minutes.

Right now I'm in the middle of a terrible downswing (the worst of my life) so this video has been extremely helpful. I realize I still have huge flaws in my game philosphy and how short-term results affect me, my confidence/emotional state is on a big roller coaster :D

Top video Leszek! You are the best. ^^

Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 7 months ago

Thank you Diego!

If you do mental game evaluation just after the session, you should get pretty accurate description of your mental state during the session. You should be able to capture situations that deteriorated your perfermance and those that helped you to play better. Also you should have very good general overview of how your play was related to your emotional state.

If you do it 45 minutes later, of course you would have better idea how did you do in big pots and you would be able to assess your quality of tought decisions better. However you may miss some important conclusions regarding the impact of your emotional state on your game. Right after your game you have access to it. Even 1 hour later you may forget how exactly you felt and your brain will mostly rationalize what happened during the session, instead of giving you a real insight.

To sum it up, in my opinion the key take away from taking notes after the session is the ability to learn how your emotions are related with your performance. The importance of that definitely outweighs being more precise with your game evaluation. However if this is something really important to you, you can always take notes just after the session, and after your 45-min hand review you can slightly change your evaluation of the quality of your key decisions.

Diego Ramirez 6 years, 7 months ago

Will follow your advice then and do it right after the session.

I feel like you have already provided me with all the necessary tools to overcome this f/%%&ng downswing (and my career in general). After a whole month of bad playing and bad running, I came to realize I was doing bad simply because of having gone back the old habits of not working on improving my performance (skipped pre-session routine, skipped mental journey,... just blindly play). And also some other stuff, like quality of sleep and many other things that have fallen apart. The moments I have (out of laziness I guess) moved away from your teachings is when I have performed the worse.

Much love dear Leszek, really appreciate all your help. All the best!

Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 7 months ago

Thanks Diego and good conclusions! Sometimes losing money can help us to work stronger on our game and our habits. I definitely belive that sticking to all these small things you mentioned can overall have a huge effect on your performance.
Best of luck!

MegaGrinder 6 years, 6 months ago

This might be the most valuable video for me personally from all videos in this site. Thank you so much for doing thins.

I have been playing years and always suffered a lot from result orientated thinking. I will definitely start to track my sessions and analyze them so, that I could be happy for my session regardless of the results.

Action orientated concentration and keeping track might be the key element I have been lacking. Hopefully this would me me enjoy poker much more while improving long term EV at the same time.

Just loved the video. And I also like your other videos. Big respect!

Leszek Badurowicz 6 years, 5 months ago

Thank you so much for your comment. I am really flattered!
Wish you good luck with implementing those changes. Being more decision/process oriented takes a lot of effort, but the difference in mental game comfort is so huge that it's definitely worth it.

wowsick 5 years ago

Hi Leszek,

What is your opinion about the stop-loss strategy during a session?

Leszek Badurowicz 5 years ago

Of course it always depends....

Here are some of the guidelines:

1) For people who struggle with tilt it should be lower
2) When you are on the downswing your s/l also can be on the lower side because downswing drains your muscle of discipline and takes out a lot of energy from you and makes it much easier to tilt
3) If you are doing ok, feel sharp, play your A-game it can be on the higher side as this the time when you make the most money
4) Ideally you always play yourA/B-game but in reality thats basically impossible so I would always have some sort of s/l in your mind depending on the game you are playing, downsiwng/upsiwing, your current state of mind etc. I feel like it is quite rare for people to lose eg 10BI in cash games without playing worse than at the beginning of the session.

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