Great presentation Luke. Helped me a lot. I now have a Post-It on my monitor with "FOLD EARLY WHEN YOU WILL FACE MULTIPLE BETS" written on it ;)
Can you give a simple example of being at a range disadvantage?
John Mackay11 years, 4 months agonot sure the note "fold early when facing mutiple bets" is a relevant since its down to how your range does vs villains, for example if you know they open 100% of hands and barrel off a very high percentage having third pair is a fist pump calldown.
lets say you 3B otb vs a 24% raise first from CO reg who has a pretty tight 4B range (lets say 4.5% with JJ+ AK+ foir value) and you just decide to call - now your at a range disadvantage - villains 4B range would be something like this...
while your only ever gonna be happy to slow play AA from your value aipf range in this spot (although that would be bad since villain can 4bet call with 44 out of 60 combo's) so villains range is stronger
Hey John, thanks for trying to help me out. The note is to stop me calling one or two streets when I'll rarely be able to get to showdown. I agree with you that there are times when it's a good plan, but I have made the mistake a few times as Luke described in the video. I agree I haven't phrased it well.
Now the thing that I'm not 100% clear on - range (dis)advantage. I'm unclear whether it's what my range is that matters, or how it's perceived. Leaving your example for one second, I think I've got the simpler bits straight in my mind. LP flatter < EP open, BU open/call < SB 3B(assuming everyone is fairly sane). Are those right?
Now to the example you took the trouble to construct - thank you. If I only call KK+, (not saying that's a good idea), then I actually have a tighter range than his, but might reasonably be perceived to have a wider one. Is that a range advantage or disadvantage as was discussed in the video?
You should check out Tom Coldwell's Pro Poker Tools: The Basics, it is focused on Omaha but most of it should translate pretty well since its mainly about using the software.
Lucas, your examples were fine just would have been a bit easier to follow with text or HH re-player.
personally i'd rather have less of the generalized theory videos and more HH review or re-player or if you are going to do some theory stuff more specific/detailed would be nice
Yes, exactly I'll make a video at where I re-evaluate this concept, and use specific examples, PPT etc so I can illustrate specific spots clearly, instead of this video which is mainly to introduce a concept that players may not fully understand
I know this video is old but being relatively new to the game I really enjoyed it. As several others said some examples of hands would have been great but thanks for this awesome video it's definitely one of my favorites so far.
12:31 u said u want to charge your opponent to see cards but this isn't 2005 these days guys are raising a lot wider on the flop with gut shot and back door draws and also raising flops with drawing hands. They will also attack paired boards. So u can go from cb to charge them to getting raised and being in a tough spot with 1 pair. So it depends the opponent whether we want to charge them on their equity if they are guys like to raise their equity then cb can be a disaster when they raise cause now we don''t know where we are at in the hand. We could be ahead or way behind and on the drawy type boards a lot of the time we are forced to fold top pair cause at best we are flipping with them. So checking can sometimes be better especially if we have back door nut equity vs the more aggro opponents.
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it would be nice if you had slides for your examples as it would make it much easier to follow video :)
Totally agree, I'll make a video where I go through some specific examples
Great presentation Luke. Helped me a lot. I now have a Post-It on my monitor with "FOLD EARLY WHEN YOU WILL FACE MULTIPLE BETS" written on it ;)
Can you give a simple example of being at a range disadvantage?
lets say you 3B otb vs a 24% raise first from CO reg who has a pretty tight 4B range (lets say 4.5% with JJ+ AK+ foir value) and you just decide to call - now your at a range disadvantage - villains 4B range would be something like this...

while your only ever gonna be happy to slow play AA from your value aipf range in this spot (although that would be bad since villain can 4bet call with 44 out of 60 combo's) so villains range is strongerHey John, thanks for trying to help me out. The note is to stop me calling one or two streets when I'll rarely be able to get to showdown. I agree with you that there are times when it's a good plan, but I have made the mistake a few times as Luke described in the video. I agree I haven't phrased it well.
Now the thing that I'm not 100% clear on - range (dis)advantage. I'm unclear whether it's what my range is that matters, or how it's perceived. Leaving your example for one second, I think I've got the simpler bits straight in my mind. LP flatter < EP open, BU open/call < SB 3B(assuming everyone is fairly sane). Are those right?
Now to the example you took the trouble to construct - thank you. If I only call KK+, (not saying that's a good idea), then I actually have a tighter range than his, but might reasonably be perceived to have a wider one. Is that a range advantage or disadvantage as was discussed in the video?
Lucas u mentioned pro poker tools.
I wonder if you would consider making a video about pro poker tools. Maybe 30-45 minutes about the software how to get the most out of it ?
You should check out Tom Coldwell's Pro Poker Tools: The Basics, it is focused on Omaha but most of it should translate pretty well since its mainly about using the software.
Lucas, your examples were fine just would have been a bit easier to follow with text or HH re-player.
personally i'd rather have less of the generalized theory videos and more HH review or re-player or if you are going to do some theory stuff more specific/detailed would be nice
Yes, exactly I'll make a video at where I re-evaluate this concept, and use specific examples, PPT etc so I can illustrate specific spots clearly, instead of this video which is mainly to introduce a concept that players may not fully understand
Hi Lucas, do you have any plan to continue with realizing equity by examples? thanks
The topic is very interesting but it would be nicer to see more examples. I liked the video anyway.
I know this video is old but being relatively new to the game I really enjoyed it. As several others said some examples of hands would have been great but thanks for this awesome video it's definitely one of my favorites so far.
Lucas - very good video. Loved it. Thanks.
12:31 u said u want to charge your opponent to see cards but this isn't 2005 these days guys are raising a lot wider on the flop with gut shot and back door draws and also raising flops with drawing hands. They will also attack paired boards. So u can go from cb to charge them to getting raised and being in a tough spot with 1 pair. So it depends the opponent whether we want to charge them on their equity if they are guys like to raise their equity then cb can be a disaster when they raise cause now we don''t know where we are at in the hand. We could be ahead or way behind and on the drawy type boards a lot of the time we are forced to fold top pair cause at best we are flipping with them. So checking can sometimes be better especially if we have back door nut equity vs the more aggro opponents.
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