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Raising The Standards: $2.5/$5 6-Max Zoom NLHE

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Raising The Standards: $2.5/$5 6-Max Zoom NLHE

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Elías Gutierrez

POSTED Jan 12, 2018

Elías Gutierrez aka SinKarma shares his decision making process as he plays a table of $500 Zoom.

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Justis 7 years, 3 months ago

Hey, just try another format and people will say after they will see it, they like it or not :) ofc appreciated all new ideas and your efforts! 13:07 J9s w missed str8 d, you bet like 38% and you would do it with also good hands, like trips and T. So you have only one sizing here? Best hands goes for x/r, like fullhouses and prob nut flush? Btw how to split flush combos here? I tried to analyse this spot w PIO, but I'm not sure what sizing(s) to choose. Even overbet makes sense here as well as block bet like 25%, but PIO then goes for overbet w mostly strongest hands, not too much left strong hands for x/r. How important here to have enough strongest hands in our x/r range? And if we are not missing value by just using one sizing, like 38%?
Lots of questions and thoughts, kinda messy, but I hope u will understand and help me little bit with this spot :) thanks!

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

Hi Justis ^^

J9 hand: Most of my trips are doing check raise on the Flop, on the river I would say we want to have two strategies, overbet strategy with trips, flushes and some miss straightdraws with the blocker of the flush and the one I did with Tx, Kx, maybe 77 66 (not sure) and other straightdraws, finding the balance is kind of difficult on this spot. It might look like we have a lot of missed straightdraws but a bunch of them are doing Xraise on the flop so it´s ok. (I dont like Xraise on the river range on this exact spot). my thoughts are mainly based on Pio as well on other similar spots.

Regards!

Justis 7 years, 3 months ago

Sounds good! Let's say board isn't paired, T82r x/c, Ks x/x, river 4s completes flush. We still wanna have two sizings here? (blocking and overbetting) Or we wanna x/r range, when board isn't paired? I tried to run some sims w PIO on it, but it's kinda hard to find out which one is right way to go. Thnx for your answers, appreciate!

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

Same, we usually want to have Xraise strategies in spots where the other player is betting often or spots where we can´t bet for value and we have tons of weak bluffcatchers in our check river range. In these two spots we have tons of hands that want to bluff or bet for value, check + Raise is not an option, we need our strong hands and bluffs betting on the river.

darkrideee 7 years, 3 months ago

I think you can mix it up with both more creative videos and teaching based type videos or combine the two. I mean, obviously you are a very creative person and i do believe exploring that would be a good thing for everyone( for you and the community) but, also, you are a very good poker player, so explaining your thought process at the tables is very important as well.

kingkong 7 years, 3 months ago

Hi, I know it seems very trendy to cbet 30% on Kxx and Axx but me too I'm always scare opponent don't fold enough. (hand at 9:50).

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

There are some boards like Axx or Kxx that you really want to bet your middle range because the Ev is way higher, when you are betting middle range your whole range wants to bet in the same way (top pairs and bluffs) so the reason why you want to bet 30% is a major reason, whenever you feel they are calling too much you must think that your middle range is getting benefit from it at the same time and it will make you feel more comfortable probably.

Against a fish you can bet a little bit stronger but also playing spots that you will bet often on the turn you might want to maintain his range wider by betting smaller on the flop to have more Fold equity on future streets.

Regards!

kingkong 7 years, 3 months ago

Hi, the hand at 27:00 I would think you would lead the turn bigger sizing on J939 because I thinking you polarize with the 9. I'm also scare the smaller sizing has almost no fold equity and we have almost no showdown value.

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

If you want to polarize your range that would be the right move, stronger size but on these spots the trendy strategy in highstakes is a non-polarized strategy, betting other weaker pairs looking for protection etc, that´s why I did a small bet, if you polarize your game on this spot probably its better to do check with everything because you are selling your middle range against possible 2barrels and 3barrels. ( between the three options I like check and I like a small bet as well, not sure which one is better nowadays)

Bingo 123 7 years, 3 months ago

I would love to watch your blogs on ytube but I cant understand anything haha. Maybe it's an idea of have like 10min English vlog episode at beginning or end of the more standard video ? Would certainly tune in to watch. Good luck mate!

allman85 7 years, 3 months ago

Good video. I like how the focus is just on one table, makes it easier to follow. Curious why you prefer 3x opening size preflop when so many now are opening 2.5x or smaller size?

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

I think 3x is a more solid strategy, you give them worst odds for coldcalls and your OR frequency is a little bit tighter, it makes easier to play against 3bets. There are many great players following x3, x2.5 and x2.

There isn´t a 100% correct answer for this as a general approach I believe, probably one of the main roles should be the rake, the lower you play, the higher the rake is and you prefer to send less hands to the flop so probably a higher size preflop is better playing low stakes, if you play highstakes maybe it´s better to raise smaller, snowie overall likes small.

Regards!

Vatal 7 years, 3 months ago

Hello Elias, nice video! At 30:30, 84bb deep CO vs BTN, can you explain why you don’t want to have 4bet range that is not all in?

Thanks.

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

Hello Vatal!

The general Ev of stealing his 3bet is bigger than the Ev of sending him to the flop with good odds. Our all in is cheaper and that opens de door to go all in with hands like TT and those hands really dont want to go to the flop, they prefer all in so our strong hands want to follow the same line, if our range is AA + Bluffs then we shouln´t go all in but our range is different and we need protection with a lot of hands.

Regards!

javsanmi 7 years, 3 months ago

Hi Elias!

Very good stuff, keep this high level pls because its really top.

i have a question on your K4dd hand min 32:00. I know you have a 1/3 turn bet strategy when we raising flops and the turns puts the flushes and straights on board if i undestood correctly. So in my opinion i think this one its a good candidate, but you decided to bet big, can you tell me why?

Thank you!

Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 3 months ago

I do that when I am playing OOP, this one is IP, we dont need to do 1/3 because we can polarize our game by checking behind on the turn. OOP that wouldn´t happen and our strategies must be different.

Regards!

errrrahhhh 7 years, 2 months ago

Hey Elias – Nice video.

24:53 - I was thinking about this hand creatively – What about leading out for one third pot on river, and you could add flush draws as bluffs…Because, I don’t think that he’s bluffing the river much if any at all, and you are ahead 99% of the time. Another idea is to over bet lead out for 5x pot or even shove. He might have tough call with an Ace.

As for video ideas, I would like to see more 5/10 plus action, as there are not really a lot of the videos available at high stakes NL on RIO. If you could produce videos and do hand reviews at high stakes on Pokerstars that would be great, from my perspective. Also very valuable would be if you are active with answering questions on the forum. For example, let’s say that you made some videos 3 tabling and hand review at 5/10 plus on Pokerstars, and that you are actively answering and participating on the forums. I don’t think all of the videos need to be super fancy. That’s my ideas.

By the way, what software are you using to make the videos?

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Elías Gutierrez 7 years, 2 months ago

24:53 / If you do that you will not have hands calling 3barrel and actually as I said in the video I dont think he is betting on the turn with a non-polarized range, that means that our donk would find either our same made hand or bluffs making an easy fold vs our bet, there is no point to be creative on this spot because of that.

2/ More Highstakes action is coming ^^

3/ I dont have time for forums, I am already working on way too many things at the same time, in an ideal world I would do it but I can´t :P

Lausbub 7 years, 2 months ago

Hey no NL pro here so mb dumb question: min 23: you say he has bluffs and 33, as JJ usually would squeeze pre. why aren't we betting the turn then, if flushes are likely to bet themselves? we get value from 33 for like half pot and protect against his bluffs as at this point everything will have a gs+. on river we can cb and if the board pairs we win.
Would the bet leave our cb range too vulnerable? Would be a cb on the turn with a flush better to balance being capped? (at least sometimes cb, mostly bet)

Mrs.Masaje 7 years, 2 months ago

i pay $100 per month and only watch your content & sauce123 - and previously only sauce - nothing else is interesting or enjoyable to watch from this site anymore.
your videos are perfect and the time length being around 30mins is perfect for me & almost everybody else that i have spoken 2.
its a shame you dont youtube in english :( i best touch up on spanish

TBEMONEYTMT 7 years, 1 month ago

Hi Elías! Thx for your video, its great as usual!
@25:45 85s hand: I don't like this passive line. I would bet on the turn like 125-150% overbet, because I would bet my QJs QJo,KK hands too and I think that overbet make sb and bb Ax one pair hands a very tough decision and they have to fold all Kx and Tx one pair hands too. If one of them call the turn overbet and we get the flush on the river we can easily value bet it and make a most profit of it, if the flush dont get it on the river and the river is a blank, we can overbet it once more and againts that sizing/line sb or bb can make only a very big hero call and I dont think these two players would make that in this case. What do you think about it? Thx

VanDerMeyde 6 years, 5 months ago

Your English, even though its not perfect, is actually really comfortable to listen to. I think its great following your train of thought and explanations :-)

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