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Proview: Felipe Boianovsky Reviews Razios $.5/$1 Zoom NLHE (part 2)

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Felipe Boianovsky

POSTED Nov 05, 2013

Felipe continues his review of subscriber Razios, seeking areas of improvement in his game.

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Daz 11 years, 4 months ago

I'm very happy with your vid Felipe, clear and precise reasoning. Very instructional and informative. Thank you

Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 4 months ago

Thank you Daz!

Could you please edit your posts putting the time of the video in each spot you are talking about so it's easier for me to look at it and answer ? Thanks!

Also would probably be better if you watch the entire video first to post all the questions in one post. Thanks :)


Daz 11 years, 4 months ago

00:40 T8sBBvCO. 

Is the T8s not a lot closer given he is in CO and has plenty more non-Ace high Broadway that can barrel here. Versus a BTN open I presume you are calling again? I don’t feel continuing with 5x and AQ/AJ is enough combos here

00:50 KToBTvCO. 

How wide would you flat IP given you know of clear postflop reads on villain? You mention KJo what about ATo and what suited hands? The validity of 3betting versus playing a smaller pot IP but with an unclear equity edge.

05:45 AT MPvBB. 

If we checking back twice on these boards with our EP/MP range sometimes CO range How do we stop villain from leading river and taking the pot down everytime? what hands are we checking back to call villain's river lead? What offsuit broadway hands would you consider barrelling here? 

09:10 KTo called 3b COvSB. 

Seems too loose. What work and results have you done regarding flatting 3bets IP? I’m hesitant to flat some hands without a read on villain’s postflop tendencies. Which hands are simply too strong to fold? What about proximity effects? – the fact that your QJ/JT type hands will often flop worse pairs and/or be dominated OR that their straight draw outs are discounted

11:05 87s BvC. 

How would you play the turn if you did improve to a 7 or 8. bearing in mind the 7s and 8s brings the flush possibility too. Even though he minraises, i'm expecting the villain to barrel frequently. Since he can still have sets and pair+FD your outs are discounted. This isn't looking very favourable: you need 20% equity or so to continue but you have 6 outs (4 outs) 12% (8%) from flop to turn. You are OOP with no ‘clean’ turn outs. Are you hoping he checks back the turn after minraising IP?

16:54 AKs 3bet SvBT. 

This is a dilemma for me. I don’t always know villain’s tendencies especially in large player pools. Some players check back worse Ace high, some check back their pairs and wait for you to check twice to them before they bet. Some stab with their worse broadway. Some are stubborn with their pairs, some will call flop and fold turn or river. I’m left with a lot of guessing. How should i approach cbetting on this board?



Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 4 months ago

00:40

I'm thinking about it again and I think your right and we need to call. The main reason is that this is a board texture in which most people check-behind most of their A highs on the flop. So his range ends up having too many offsuit boradway combos and stuff like you said.

But in the aspect of theory and minimum defense frequency, continuing just with the AX+ might not be enough, I'm not sure. But even though our kicker doesn't play, in theory, to defend the minimum, we might might have to add some Tx combos to our turn call and fold some others. So before T8 comes KT, QT, TJ which are a ton of combos cuz we play all of them off suit vs CO. 

So from a Theory perspective I still think T8 is a fold, although, because most people at this level make the mistake of barreling this turn to often while they don't have enough value combos because of how frequently they check-back A high on the flop, being unbalanced, we can exploitatively call more, including T8.

(edit: I just analyzed the hand as if it was T55 A, lol. Not gonna erase it because I think there is some interesting points if you pretend that really was the board).

00:50

It depends on the CO tendencies and the people behind. If the blinds are mostly regs that squeeze a lot, my flatting range will get tighter, and if there are fishes in the BB it will get wider. 

Another thing to look at is what pos-flop tendencies of the pre-flop raiser you can exploit. So for example, if he cbets too much on the flop and too little on the turn, we can float him more often and exploit that, or if he folds to much to "raise cbet" we can raise on more boards, making an usually marginal pre-flop call become good.

ATo and KJo I'm flatting almost everytime though.

05:54

To defend our checking back range we can cbh with some pocket pairs, and we can call river with the top of our non-pair range, like AK and AQ, if we think we're not defending enough on the river and that he might take advantage of that.

The hands I'm going to cbet bluff with are mostly the boradways that contain a backdoor flush draw, and then barrel when we pick up equity (gutter+).

09:10

It is too loose on general on CO vs SB, but vs this sizing we have to defend. We're getting 3 to 1 on a call, so we only need to realize 25% of the pot pos-flop, and we have position. So I think KTo is good enough, although vs this guy who seems pretty nitty I definitely prefer a hand like 69s, because of our reverse implied odds with this hand. But both are a call vs this sizing.

11:05

I think we definitely need to take into consideration the possibility of him checking-back the turn. A lot of people take the min-raise and check-back next street line to get a "cheap showdown". So he might do that with a weak T, maybe some PPs, and even a draw sometimes. So needing only 20% equity, I think considering the times we get to see the river and the rare times that we win at showdown unimproved, we can call. But if he makes it bigger it's definitely a fold.

16:54

I think that vs most 30 big blinders you can pretty confidently check-call the flop. They are too often 4bet shoving any pocket pairs, and don't call with enough 6x/2x/3x, and even if they do hit it with something like A6s, they often pot-control the flop checking-back. 

So they will too often take a stab with some broadways and some suited conectors that miss the board and be very unbalanced, so you can x/c w AK pretty confidently.

In this spots where you are lost, start by figuring out their pre-flop ranges. So if villain rarely has a pair here and will stab too often vs our missed cbet, AK becomes a great bluff catcher.

Daz 11 years, 4 months ago

Continued discussion on 

00:40 T8s

On paired flops, i routinely see villain cbetting with Ace high then CHECKING when they hit the Ace on the turn because "now they scared of i have 3OAK" but then they call my river bet regardless of how big i make it. Until i know villain's cbet range is constructed like this and that they pot control - i give away bets in this fashion.

00:50

Overall my ability to float is producing mixed results. i do need to work on this. again, pot control lines from villain means i often give away a bet OTT. It doesn't feel like i'm making money in those spots. It almost like the more villain bets the more he is weak UNLESS he is full potting each street OR his betting increments increase. i undertsand, like from the hand above its crucial to know villain's postflop play. 

09:10 

My problem is that when i do some graph analysis on KTo versus TT+, AK (even when villain has bluffs, if we play the hand as if he holds premiums) the results suggest you have 55%+ equity 5% of the time. 50% eq. 10% of the time. But those times you hit less than that you will be giving money back calling to see what villain does. Furthermore, the reverse implied odds are a real threat. Villain pretty much needs to cbet give up and not incorporate a check/call OR check/raise line at any point. We need some serious reads on villain before calling this 3bet?!

11:05

i don't see villain's checking back after raising the flop that often. Maybe i have biases? will need to check my database. Continuing facing flop raises has been a big leak of mine. mathematically i'm not convinced. Especially since we are OOP and so won't realize our equity as often. 

16:54

Again, maybe some results have skewed my judgment. Twice in the same session did a different 33bb short stacked flat without odds a small pair and flop a set versus my AA/QQ. Not a bad beat story but just proof that they are flatting low pairs and that their range is somewhat less defined. i do see SCs being flatted too eg 76s. 

megatr0n 11 years, 4 months ago

well done with the video .. I really liked the fact that you're skipping the outcome of some hands that are standard. 

@ 3mins: just a quick Q here, You said it's a bit loose to open A2o on CO which I agree. what's the worst Ax that you'd open here in a vaccum? a6-a7?

Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 4 months ago

Thanks!

I think that one of the most common mistake I see small stakes players making is overvaluing AXo. If I'm opening a 27% range from the CO, it will include all the AXs, all the KXs and ATo+. So I prefer opening K5s than A8o, for example.

AXo just has really bad playability, it doesn't make draws to semi-bluff with equity, and when it makes a pair there is no implied odds and too much reverse implied odds. 



Daz 11 years, 4 months ago

What else you adding to get to 27%?  22+ AT+ KJ+ Axx Kxx Q9s+ J9s+ T9s 98s 87s 76s 65s and i only get 21.3% what else are you including of you want to ramp up your opening range here?

Bhtopspin 11 years, 4 months ago

Nice vid. More general question. Felipe, if you are playing in the lineup with weaker and recreational players mostly, how much would you deviate from balanced play approach? Let's say you have your 55/16, 34/29, 70/5 players on your table. Would you play exploitative style or still stick to balanced game? 

Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 4 months ago

Hey, Thanks!

I would pretty much not care about balance at all. Vs a 55/16 or a 70/5 they are going to make so many mistakes that you should always focus on exploiting those mistakes, so I'm playing 100% exploitatively vs them.


Daz 11 years, 4 months ago

Value-oriented approach. Keep your bluffing to cbets and stabs when checked to. But their stack off ranges preflop are AA/KK heavy, so i wouldn't be stacking off QQ/AK. They don't have a 5bet bluff shove range so you don't need to call lighter than KK yourself. 

BrokeInGozo 11 years, 4 months ago

7:00
you're talking about 68% to be a high fold to 3bet % and it's actually not the first video I watch where i'm a bit surprised about those numbers and get confused. Do your tracker take in count all the times you are like in the blinds and there is an open in early position and 3bet by the button ? If it does (like mine) 68% doesn't seem to me like a high fold to 3 bet at all.

Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 4 months ago

No no, it doesn't account that, only the times that you oppened and got 3bet.

The reason why it's too high is because it usually needs to work less to be profitable with any two just for the pre-flop fold equity. If we make it 9 bbs vs a 3 bbs open, we're risking 9 to win 3 + 1.50 (bb+sb). So 9 / (9 + 4.50) = 66%~. So if he is is folding 68% we're autoprofiting with our 3bet bluffs.


J B 11 years, 4 months ago

Hi Felipe, very good vid. I have a question regarding the QQ hand at 15:50. You suggest leading on the J92tt Flop. What are we doing if Villain raises our lead? 

Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 3 months ago

Hi,

It depends on villain's tendencies of course, but on general I would call. It's a very draw heavy board where he can be raise bluffing with some draws, and could possibly be value-raising with AJ thinking we might lead/call a lot of KJ/QJ type hands.

Getready2rokk 11 years, 4 months ago

Cool vid like the others! Looking forward to see your next series! :)

@5.20 ATo you think its std open from MP ? for some reason hate ATo, rather open any Axs from MP.

@7.37 77, I like your reasoning for 3b/5b in that spot vs this particulair villian, how wide would you go tho ?55+,AQ+ ?

@19.52 KQs, I agree hes not having that many floats in general cause his high fold cbet.
But i think we also need to consider the texture here being really dry, cant he float any AQ/AJ/KQ with clubs, 56s,67s,9Ts with FD or backdoors ?

Its true his range is stronger than someone who floats more but still he cant be that strong and we rep JJ+. I think he has a hard time calling down onepair hands, hes only happy with 88,TT,99 basically JJ is not too happy on the runout. But im not sure about it, its a spot i have trouble with sometimes, i obv perfer to have a little more equity in my hand to barrel down so c/f KQspades is prob fine and then barrel down stuff with more equity i think.


Felipe Boianovsky 11 years, 3 months ago

Hey,

5:20 - yeah, I am opening any AXs from MP as well, and ATo is the worse AXo I'll open. But It's fine to fold if you wanna play a little tighter. I don't open it from UTG.

19:52 - The AQ/AJ hands usually call flop not actually a float, it's more of a value call, they think it's good enough percentage of the time, beating a lot of our 3bet bluffs with A high. So the main hands we make him fold on the turn would be AQ/AJ, and I just don't think it's enough combos to compensate a double barrel here. And he could even still call those, as he did with AK high.

So yeah, it's as you concluded. It's not a spot where his range is extremely strong, so it's not like we're never bluffing. But to bluff a hand like this, without a gutter or legit draw and just the over cards, it should be a spot that we would get more immediate fold equity, since we don't have equity to compensate with implied odds.

Federico Mazzini 11 years, 3 months ago

Nice vid sir.  I have got some question about hands: 

min. 5.47--->  Did he have to defends with K4s on top right? What's a good defending range there? 

min 16.20 ---> the hand with T7 I would have done pot size to polarize our range cause I'v seen most of Villains calling more when I pot than when I value bet.

min. 17.48 ---> AQ hand, is that a r/c or r/f

min. 24.25 ---> how much should be the size on the turn with AA? 

Ty so much

Felipe Boianovsky 10 years, 7 months ago

Hey, thanks!

5.47 - against 3x from a tight player you can definitely fold this. If it's a loose player opening to wide on the CO, then you should probably be defending K4s. 3betting is also an ok option.

16.20 - if that's how the player pool is reacting, then yeah, you should definitely do that. But theory-wise, it will depend on your turn raising strategy there. To use over betting strategies you need to have a lot of bluffs in your range, otherwise good regs will find very easy folds with their bluff catchers, getting bad pot-odds. So as long as you can still have a lot of bluffs, it's definitely fine to over bet with a polarized range.

17.48 - that will be very player dependent. With no reads (so, theory-wise), it depends on your flop checking back range. If you're checking back some weak Kx here, then you could raise / fold the AQ and still not be exploitable vs 3bet bluffs, as you'll still have quite a few Kx combos do continue. In general, exploitative-wise, if I raise turn with AQ, I'm calling a 3bet, because one of the main reasons for raising would be vs a weak player that will not give me credit because I checked back the flop. So the idea is to induce bluffs and stuff like that. But you need to have a solid read that your opponent will react poorly to the raise.

24.25 - usually any sizing that is enough to be able to shove the river for less then 1 pot size bet. I'd bet a little bit bigger, like 19$-21$.


Insilicio 10 years, 7 months ago

16:32 table 1: you mention u would donk QQ since u don't want villain to cbet and check back turn. Why not c/c flop and lead turn then?

Felipe Boianovsky 10 years, 7 months ago

Only reason for thinking that would be better then leading flop, would be if you'd expect villain to cbet widely on this board. One of the merits of having a leading range on this flop is that villain won't cbet wide on a board like this. 

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