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I think cbet is the standard - and against a standard non-tough opponent i will cbet close to 100% on this board... as my opponent gets tougher, I will start x/back give-up some hands, and start x/back some weaker show-down hands.
i think against a very tough regular, especially one who likes to x/raise lots, you do want to start x/back some aces - and this is one of the best candidates (small kicker / no bdfd)
250bb effective. utg opens 2.25bb, utg+1 makes it 9bb, we are btn KQo and make it 22bb.
Agree that sizing is to small given stack sizes.
However, when we were looking at UTG+1's 3b range I usually assume it would be polarized to suited connectors/maybe some small pp's and JJ+ AK+ given its an UTG open hes 3betting. You included AQ/AQs+ in the value range, is there merit to 3betting UTG opens with AQs/AQo next to act? Surely cant be to excited about defending it to a cold 4bet though. Anyway, I like the 4bet in this spot since that villain looked like he was type to get out of line and maybe he didn't take the UTG open to serious. Idk where it shows stat of how much original UTG is opening but his stats seem pretty relevant, but speaking for blocker value this hand is about as good as it gets.
On a slight side tangent of preflop 3betting ranges, for 6max online specifically, its similiar to UTG opens and we are in the BB. I know people have different strategies and some people don't have 3betting ranges or significantly reduced 3b % since they dont have much of a bluffing range. Luckily I don't play enough 6max to need to figure these things out but I am sure good regs have thought pretty hard about what they are doing preflop.
Specifically your specialty live poker Mr. Rast, when you are in the blinds and 300bb+ deep do you find yourself flatting strong overpairs more then you'd like to admit? I think you can find that indifference point that varies from opponent to opponent and try to exploit that once you familiarize yourself with their ranges, but the value of position is so important when its two good deep-stack players. That is why I see some people 3bet really deep and I just think you should be calling their 3bet so wide in position. If you are a good you can find a variety of board textures to put the pressure on their range, but if they are straight forward and more predictable there is a lot more value in trying to inflate the pot with your strong hands irregardless of position.
I would assume most UTG+1 would 3bet in this spot for a few reasons..
1) UTG opened small to 4.40$ (close to minraise)
2) UTG isn't UTG 9-max... UTG six-max is still a middle position spot imo, and i think pretty standard to 3bet AQs/AQo UTG+1 at least a decent % of the time in this spot, especially as part of a wider value range 200BB deep.
In general when deeper, I think you can 3bet more in position rather than less... especially if someone's opening range is the same... the reason being is that you don't have to fold to 4bets ... sure it changes the range of hands you might want to 3bet.
as a corollary, it means that OOP you 3bet less and almost never with bad unplayable type of hands that you might 3bet in a tournament when you have lots of fold equity... or even in 60-100bb situations button to blinds... hands you can't call from SB and add to your 3bet range (for example as Sean Lefort discusses in his 6max sb video which was part of a really good series!)
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Nice vid!
@37:10 A5cc on AQ2, table 4, is this a std cbet ? or does x/back have merrit ?
I think cbet is the standard - and against a standard non-tough opponent i will cbet close to 100% on this board... as my opponent gets tougher, I will start x/back give-up some hands, and start x/back some weaker show-down hands.
i think against a very tough regular, especially one who likes to x/raise lots, you do want to start x/back some aces - and this is one of the best candidates (small kicker / no bdfd)
@ KQ hand.
250bb effective. utg opens 2.25bb, utg+1 makes it 9bb, we are btn KQo and make it 22bb.
Agree that sizing is to small given stack sizes.
However, when we were looking at UTG+1's 3b range I usually assume it would be polarized to suited connectors/maybe some small pp's and JJ+ AK+ given its an UTG open hes 3betting. You included AQ/AQs+ in the value range, is there merit to 3betting UTG opens with AQs/AQo next to act? Surely cant be to excited about defending it to a cold 4bet though. Anyway, I like the 4bet in this spot since that villain looked like he was type to get out of line and maybe he didn't take the UTG open to serious. Idk where it shows stat of how much original UTG is opening but his stats seem pretty relevant, but speaking for blocker value this hand is about as good as it gets.
On a slight side tangent of preflop 3betting ranges, for 6max online specifically, its similiar to UTG opens and we are in the BB. I know people have different strategies and some people don't have 3betting ranges or significantly reduced 3b % since they dont have much of a bluffing range. Luckily I don't play enough 6max to need to figure these things out but I am sure good regs have thought pretty hard about what they are doing preflop.
Specifically your specialty live poker Mr. Rast, when you are in the blinds and 300bb+ deep do you find yourself flatting strong overpairs more then you'd like to admit? I think you can find that indifference point that varies from opponent to opponent and try to exploit that once you familiarize yourself with their ranges, but the value of position is so important when its two good deep-stack players. That is why I see some people 3bet really deep and I just think you should be calling their 3bet so wide in position. If you are a good you can find a variety of board textures to put the pressure on their range, but if they are straight forward and more predictable there is a lot more value in trying to inflate the pot with your strong hands irregardless of position.
I would assume most UTG+1 would 3bet in this spot for a few reasons..
1) UTG opened small to 4.40$ (close to minraise)
2) UTG isn't UTG 9-max... UTG six-max is still a middle position spot imo, and i think pretty standard to 3bet AQs/AQo UTG+1 at least a decent % of the time in this spot, especially as part of a wider value range 200BB deep.
In general when deeper, I think you can 3bet more in position rather than less... especially if someone's opening range is the same... the reason being is that you don't have to fold to 4bets ... sure it changes the range of hands you might want to 3bet.
as a corollary, it means that OOP you 3bet less and almost never with bad unplayable type of hands that you might 3bet in a tournament when you have lots of fold equity... or even in 60-100bb situations button to blinds... hands you can't call from SB and add to your 3bet range (for example as Sean Lefort discusses in his 6max sb video which was part of a really good series!)
Nice vid again.Really like how you explain things!
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