Minute 18 on the double set board I think this is over-checked in multi-way pots. I think often on boards like this we end up losing action from over pairs and straight draws or over rundowns with BDFD's that could turn big as more cards come off because players inherently worry about stronger hands in multi-way pots. Even though we may lose one street of value form hands that pick up equity on the turn if we check I think trying to get money into the pot here has a greater EV than a check most of the time multiway.
I hate the turn sizing. I think we are pushing too many hands out that we have absolutely crushed and there are very few hands we need that much protection against on the rainbow board. This is a spot where the river SPR should be factored into our turn bet sizing. If we are using a two sizing strategy this is a great spot for our smaller one to balance out our bluffs when we want to use smaller sizing's with something like 10-10-8-7 that fired on the flop.
Oh, yes I failed to mention anything about the turn sizing. I agree actually that it should be smaller in that spot. OTF I think those are good thoughts, especially when we are in a player pool where they tend to make more calling mistakes than anything, so it probably makes sense to bet more often than not looking at it from an exploitative perspective.
21 minutes, not c-betting here oop is actually a bigger deal than you make it. You covered a lot of good reasons why this needs to be a small c-bet but one of the other main one's is because we need to protect our small bet bluffing range with the range advantage in this spot. If we start checking back here consistently we lose the ability to c-bet profitably with our 4b combos that aren't pushing equity like our AKQ10 etc.
While in position the EV of checking back often runs similar to that of c-betting, oop is much worse. Even in a shortish video can pick up this is a bit of a theme with Hero and I'd recommend making sure to push range advantages on the flop a little harder by making sure we are locked into a balanced agressive c-bet strategy on boards that dictate it.
32 minutes def not an open if you put this in any sort of matrix/monker PFR. Multiple pips too weak for UTG. Nick Johnson All your critique seems to be right on the nose here and I'm getting a lot out of analyzing it with you this has definitely been a video with really good educational spots. If anything I'd just say you are being too nice, when there is a "wrong" play don't be afraid to call a spade a spade. That's why you are the pro doing the review. Don't always need the caveat of "well unless this and this exploit based on this player".
21:00: Yes, definitely would like to protect that bluffing range as well. Good point. I also like the hypothetical of checking back a hand like that IP; that is a good way to analyze spots like this for you players that are struggling with how to efficiently study off the table. Great point @Thallo.
32:00: Appreciate the feedback; I think one of the things that makes me successful is being able to be open-minded to different lines and strategies and that could be a flaw in itself when analyzing some spots where it is clearly a mistake such as here regarding opening.
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Minute 18 on the double set board I think this is over-checked in multi-way pots. I think often on boards like this we end up losing action from over pairs and straight draws or over rundowns with BDFD's that could turn big as more cards come off because players inherently worry about stronger hands in multi-way pots. Even though we may lose one street of value form hands that pick up equity on the turn if we check I think trying to get money into the pot here has a greater EV than a check most of the time multiway.
I hate the turn sizing. I think we are pushing too many hands out that we have absolutely crushed and there are very few hands we need that much protection against on the rainbow board. This is a spot where the river SPR should be factored into our turn bet sizing. If we are using a two sizing strategy this is a great spot for our smaller one to balance out our bluffs when we want to use smaller sizing's with something like 10-10-8-7 that fired on the flop.
Oh, yes I failed to mention anything about the turn sizing. I agree actually that it should be smaller in that spot. OTF I think those are good thoughts, especially when we are in a player pool where they tend to make more calling mistakes than anything, so it probably makes sense to bet more often than not looking at it from an exploitative perspective.
21 minutes, not c-betting here oop is actually a bigger deal than you make it. You covered a lot of good reasons why this needs to be a small c-bet but one of the other main one's is because we need to protect our small bet bluffing range with the range advantage in this spot. If we start checking back here consistently we lose the ability to c-bet profitably with our 4b combos that aren't pushing equity like our AKQ10 etc.
While in position the EV of checking back often runs similar to that of c-betting, oop is much worse. Even in a shortish video can pick up this is a bit of a theme with Hero and I'd recommend making sure to push range advantages on the flop a little harder by making sure we are locked into a balanced agressive c-bet strategy on boards that dictate it.
32 minutes def not an open if you put this in any sort of matrix/monker PFR. Multiple pips too weak for UTG. Nick Johnson All your critique seems to be right on the nose here and I'm getting a lot out of analyzing it with you this has definitely been a video with really good educational spots. If anything I'd just say you are being too nice, when there is a "wrong" play don't be afraid to call a spade a spade. That's why you are the pro doing the review. Don't always need the caveat of "well unless this and this exploit based on this player".
21:00: Yes, definitely would like to protect that bluffing range as well. Good point. I also like the hypothetical of checking back a hand like that IP; that is a good way to analyze spots like this for you players that are struggling with how to efficiently study off the table. Great point @Thallo.
32:00: Appreciate the feedback; I think one of the things that makes me successful is being able to be open-minded to different lines and strategies and that could be a flaw in itself when analyzing some spots where it is clearly a mistake such as here regarding opening.
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